Dragon fuchi

[Stephen]

when i bid on this i just had the one shot of the dragon, bonus mei, i cant get the stroke count for first kanji, hide, Know the Kao?

[Grey Doffin]

Toshihide. Don't know the kao.

Grey

[kusunokimasahige]

12 strokes as far as I can see.

 

KM

[Brian]

Can't find a Toshihide using this form of Toshi in Haynes.

Nice fchi though.

 

Brian

[Stephen]

was googling toshihide but did not find same ...thanks, geimei huh?

 

clearly not same quality

 

http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/16134/lot/5163/

[Brian]

If you can't find the same Toshihide using those kanji, then I doubt it is gimei...just unrecorded. Look decent to me, are you keeping it?

 

Brian

[Stephen]

yes, saved now for sons project.

[Ludolf Richter]

Hi,Haynes and even Wakayama often used the wrong Toshi-Kanji:I have a lot of examples in my database,but I have only one Toshihide-pic,which came from a different artist,who was a Swordsmith :see pic.Ludolf

[Stephen]

Thank you Ludolf

[kusunokimasahige]

Stephen, for general Japanese Kanji this might be a handy tool

 

http://kanji.sljfaq.org/

 

You probably will not always get the correct ancient meaning but it might help finding the one without radical searches etcetera.

 

In options choose Denshi Jisho.

 

For instance with the first kanji :

 

http://jisho.org/kanji/details/%E5%A3%BD

 

And the second:

 

http://jisho.org/kanji/details/%E7%A7%80

 

KM

[Stephen]

interesting

[Ludolf Richter]

From an internet research,it seems that there once was the 14-stokes-kanji for "Toshi" only,later to be changed in the 7-strokes-version.So if an author has no pics or other knowledge how the artist wrote his Go,he was going to use the "modern" variant with 7 stokes.That would explain why Wakayama has so many entries with the 7-kanji one,when he had no examples for his 3-volumes "Bible",for some of them I have pics in my database with 14-kanji.The same applies to Haynes,who used the Wakayama entries.Ludolf