any info appreciated

[Jiro49]

These walked into my friends shop and I got them for 400.00 for the pair. I like them but I know nothing about them

 

Any and all info appreciated

[kaigunair]

Sukashi Iron Tsubas. How's that for obvious?

 

I think the first isegg plant and (squash? perssimmon?) *wrong and wrong* themed. The other paulownia.

 

(Per latter comments, looks like it is pine needles and chidori/sea gull....)

[ROKUJURO]

Matt,

 

I wished I had a friend like that! Nice SUKASHI TSUBA. The first looks like pine needles to me with possibly a fruit like persimmon. Is that a MARU MIMI? Then it could be AKASAKA. The second one might be a HIGO theme. I would love to learn about the provenience and school from the expert members here.

 

I like both, good buy at that price I think.

[Jiro49]

He isn't a tsuba collector and I've helped him with swords in the past. I assumed the bottom one was Higo, but the first one escaped me in all areas except "sukashi"

 

I assumed they are worth about 300 each so I was happy!

 

And thank you for the info!!!

[christianmalterre]

at least you got 2 Tsuba(?)(decorative iron plate?) here for this price...

(me,am generally used to this amount so to pay mine weekly errands for this)

 

Christian

[Jiro49]

Lost in translation I think?

[christianmalterre]

Lost in translation?

yes,maybe indeed...

 

 

Christian

[Lance]

I think he's saying they aren't that good........I'd disagree and say they're decent mid level work (I like the top one more) and your assesment of $300-$350 a piece is correct, and would probably be what you'd see comparable tsuba sell for.

Regards,

Lance

[Jiro49]

Thank you.

 

Took two breaths

 

Edited as to not create strife...

[ROKUJURO]

Matt,

 

usually it is difficult to understand what Christian wants to express (I have been tempted to help him out one time or another!) but I think he only meant that you got quite nice TSUBA at a very low price - for an amount which he usually spends for his weekly errands which is probably a humble sum.

 

Certainly not a negative remark, I believe!

[Jiro49]

Appreciated!!

[Marius]

 

I think the first is egg plant and (squash? perssimmon?) themed.

 

The "egg plant" seem to be pine needles.

[seattle1]

Hello:

Very nice indeed! Both should go to shinsa.

The first looks like it might be Ko Shoami, possibly slipping into very Early Edo. The theme is pine needles and chidori (?), and the Shoami attribution is derived from the strength of the metal structure, sort of between Kyo sukashi and Owari, the robust seppa-dai and the symmetric balance and the feeling of suspended motion. The other appears to be Higo, Nishigaki, perhaps Kanshiro and Early Edo.

Lucky you.

Arnold F.

[Ed]

The first tsuba definitely depicts Pine needles, not eggplant. I also think it is birds (chidori) at the top and bottom. They resemble the way chidori are depicted on Echizen Kinai works. Not quite as bold as most Kinai depictions but similar nonetheless. Due to the double hitsu ana, and it's overall feel, I don't get Ko-Shoami or Kinai feel, and the rounded rim doesn't say Owari to me. I would have to go with Kyo-Sukashi. But just my 2 cents which are worth nothing.

 

I agree with AF on the second, looks like Higo, Nishigaki Kanshiro work.

 

Edit: Nice score !!

[kaigunair]

Stylized pine needles indeed. Gotta love the symbolisms/sylizations used in sukashi work...

 

Chidori is a better theme than persimons. Not sure, but according to this tsuba example, the birds here are sea gulls, though that might just be a Japanese to english translation. But the rendering of a round body seem to match the stylized birds here too.

http://sanmei.com/contents/media/tuba_guard8012.html

 

So birds and needles it seems...