Bruno

Hi everyone! It is probably the last time I ask for help on Nihonto. I promess! I have this classic wakizashi with unfortunately a buffed blade, that is why it is difficult to have informations from the blade itself. I think the blade is shobu zukuri, but maybe the yokote has been deleted, so it could be also shinogi zukuri? The shape of tang tip seems to be Haagari, and the nakago Futsu, but it is only my opinion.... No mark on the tang. I posted few pics of the sword, I think it is Edo period but it is not a lot of infos to be honest! I do like to know, if that is possible, the school or any other infos on the period of making. If my question is borring, please excuse me. Bruno

Yes, probably you are right Stephen. Not sure that sending WW2 stamped swords to Shinsa is a good idea. To me, it is not that important a gunto is a showato or a gendaito, if the sword is pretty and was purchased at a reasonable price I think it is ok. For example, I bought my KANEMUNE for 220$ so even it is not a gendai, I do not mind! It is only my newbie opinion. Bruno

Thank you Jean I knew NBTHK but not SHINSA, I am learning a bit more everyday thanks to you all. Bruno

Hi everyone! "shinsa"??? what does it mean? It is not in the glossary. Bruno

Hi Joe! Thanks for your response, very interesting. Showa swords will always kept their mistery, that is maybe why they are such interesting to collect. Stamps can not prove that a sword is gendai or not, in some cases, even a traditional polishing can not for sure prove it(some swords were made with such good quality steel than even best experts could not say it was tamahagane or not). Regards Bruno

Ok thanks for the GIFU meaning! "to open that old chestnut again"???? is it english humor? Too bad that I do understand this play on word! Bruno

Too bad that it is not the good one! I am wondering how this ebay seller Pierre CLAY knows when gunto were machine made or hand made? I asked him and he told me:"Just by looking I can tell". For example this KANETSUGU sword is described by him as machine made, how can he say that for sure? Bruno

About the way, what is GIFU stamp? GIFU is.....????? Bruno

I think now I will more focusing on older edo shinto nihonto, with them you are sure that they are hand made! Furthermore, they are often cheaper than showato, which is quite surprising! Regards Bruno

Thank you Stephen! My hope that it could be a gendai is flying away, snif! showa stamp=showato Thanks to all who have helped me Bruno

Sorry guys, pics are completly unreadable! Thanks for your help, I appreciated it. Regards Bruno

Here are some pics of this unidentify mark. It is certainly showa stamp but still have a doubt.... pics are not that good and probably won't that much, I do not have a better macro to provide, sorry.

Hi Stephen! Not sure to understand well your english. As I told you, there is a KANETSUGU gunto to sell on EBAY. Here is the link: http://cgi.ebay.fr/NICE-Japanese-ARMY-O ... .m63.l1177 Is it what you were looking for? I hope yes. Best regards Bruno

Thanks Stephen! "do a search here for Kanemune" WHERE IS THE "HERE"? Sorry, the little mark is not at the end of the nakago, you are right, it is close to the begining of the tang. Is it out of topic, but I remember you were looking for KANETSUGU swords, right? Because there is one to sell, mounted in a Type 3 mounting, this week on EBAY. If it is not you, excuse me. Regards Bruno

Hey Stephen, Did we go down this road before? I do not remember. Yes it is on the end of the nakago close to the habaki, and looks like a half of a stamp. Very small (3mm), impossible to identify. There is no try to delete it. I saw what a showa stamp looks like but it does not look like it. I also try to take a pic but so small that my camera zoom is not powerfull enought to catch it. Thank you Stephen, it is nice to help me. Bruno

Hi everybody! I have a simple question for those who are better connoisseurs than me. I have a gunto sword signed and dated, and until now, I have never saw any stamp on the tang. Yesterday, I looked the tang very closely and noticed what it looks like a "mark" or "stamp" but it is so small(around 3mm) and just half stamped that I am wondering if it is an arsenal stamp or not. I checked Gunto arsenal stamps on books, but the one on I am talking about is so small that I am not able to determine it(even if it should be showa stamp). Does anybody knows what were the "regular" or "standard" size of showa, seki arsenal stamps? If those ones were much bigger it would give an idea. I do like to post a pic but a 3mm mark will be difficult to see clearly. I will be gratefull of any help and opinions about my questions. If my question is stupid, forget it! PS: the sword is a FUKUMOTO KANEMUNE mounted in a Type 3 koshirae, if that help...? Thanks Bruno

Hi Matt, I live in France and what I know about sending swords to France is that it could be complicated if you do not write the right thing on the package. In fact, it is allowed to send sword to France, but....french postmen have the right to refuse to deliver the package if they think what it is inside could injured them(sword, knifes, etc...). So your package could be stopped anywhere in a post office waiting for you to pick it up. It can be annoying! To me, best thing to do is to write on the box something not explicit as "nihonto", or "gunto" etc... few people know what it is. Regards Bruno

Thanks George! It is very interesting! regards Bruno

Huuuuuummmmm.....??? What does it mean Stephen? Bruno

Thank you Moriyama san That is what I thought but wasn't 100% sure. Is it possible that the mei I joined belong to KIRIBUCHI instead of FUKUMOTO? Does the SHOWA stamp means that it a showato? Bruno

Hi everyone! On a previous post I asked some help about the mei I posted again. Some friendly persons helped me to translate it and their answer was KANEMUNE(FUKUMOTO) who seems to be the son of AMAHIDE(FUKUMOTO). Once again I want to thanks these people for having helped me. After few new researches, I found out that there were several KANEMUNE during that time. 桐淵 兼宗 (Kiribuchi Kanemune) CHUGE SAKU(RYOKO NO JOI) 福本 兼宗 (Fukumoto Kanemune) CHUGE SAKU(RYOKO NO JOI) 兼宗 (Kanemune) real name:福本 小市 SEKI KAJI TOSHO Furthermore, I saw what it looks like a SHOWA stamp on the tang, even if this one is very very difficult to see. I am wondering if these new researches can change the previous result of the mei translation? I hope MORIYAMA SAN could help me on this once again. I also want to thank Steven, George, Moriyama san and the others who gave all the previous informations before.

Thank you very much Moriyama san Bruno

Here is the AMACHIKA mei. It looks like what it is written on the tang, no? Regards

George Yes this website is very interesting. But I do not really understand(lack of english skills) if the iron/aluminium scabbards of the Type 94 and 98 showed on this website, who look like glossy aspects or semi glossy aspects are lacquered or painted. I can not the difference. Thanks Bruno

Thank you very much George! I have pics of the mei and the date on the tang, I do not know if it is readable, I joined the pics anyway. But there is no seki stamp on that tang. I will be glad to know your sources, where you found all these informations and translations(DAIDO,Higashidani, Katsukichi (or Katsuyoshi). I hope to that Moriyama san will have a look. To conclude, no chance that it could be a gendaito! I am really gratefull for your help George, I do appreciate the time you spent for getting all these informations for me. I will soon buy the famous book on modern Japanese swordsmiths, it will be helpfull. Kind regards Bruno