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Hi, If anyone is interested, this is the final version of Katate-Uchi style Koshirae. BTW, this is first Tsuba with Shakudo rim I have. I love it (Shakudo generally).

@Jon Thank you very much, complete answer and an update to my knowledge. Much appreciated!

Hi, I like and watch Shogo quite often. "His" sword prizes are also fair in my opinion. Please keep in mind that he offers a lot of Shinsakuto (as school he trains at does a lot of Tameshigiri). I don't think you can get NBTHK for Shinsakuto. Torokusho is mandatory for any sword. BTW, can you buy/deliver/bring a none Nihonto (for example Chinese/Hanwei/Coldsteel replica) to Japan and get Torokusho for it? I just wonder, let's say I'm Japanese and I want to practice Tameshigiri (reason for sword). I can't afford Nihonto so I buy Hanwei. I register it at police as per the law. Then I change Koshirae ... and sell that Hanwei on Ebay as 'certified' (Torokusho) Nihonto Nice way to abuse the system if it can be done PS. I know Torokusho is NOT a proof of being genuine Nihonto. But 'people' don't. I've seen offers where Torokusho was referred to as "certificate of authenticity"

But how ... I'm sorry, but I must disagree. This bothers me a lot. It really looks like patina was removed.

@Geraint Thank you very much! So in other words, 'cleaned' Nakago will indeed be a blocker for Shinsa to give cert, correct? Here we are talking about swords which don't have (or pictures don't show) that patina in place. For Katana I can understand. It might have been shortened not so long ago. For Wakizashi, it is still a bit strange to me. I would expect to see more patina on it. Anyway, my question was about Shinsa vs 'cleaned' Nakago and I think I have the answer. Thank you all!

So I can be right, mukade-shinae due to sword being bend?

... and it is WakiZASHI not Wakishabi (sounds like middle east fast food )

Battle/fight marks? Possible, looks like it. Or ... the sword was bend. Then why it is in such 'clean' shape? No patina at all. Is that common? I apologize if it is a silly question, but all 'old' swords I saw got patina on Nakago. These two look more like Shinsakuto alike Nakago.

Hi Adam, Lovely blade, I envy you so much! If I may, I want to boast too. I have 3 Wakizashi and all 3 are in same, perfect polish (you can find pictures in my forum threads about them). I completely understand how it feels to have such perfect condition blade in collection. Cheers!

Hello, I found below offers and something bothers me. https://www.ebay.com...shqty=1&isGTR=1#shId https://www.ebay.com...0:g:8N0AAOSwd~JlNlFr Both swords have 'clean' Nakago and NBTHK papers. Please note that Nakago in papers is also 'clean'. Does this mean that this type of restored swords can successfully pass Shinsa? I though that Nakago (rust/patina) is pretty important and it will be a blocker for such swords to pass. Please advise, thank you!

I fully agree with @PNSSHOGUN here. @tyrion67 ask yourself what do you look for. An investment, profit, sword just for you and your collection, etc.? I can point again my forum thread about Hojoji Sadahiro Gimei which I bought. No papers, Gimei, definitely overpriced ( I paid 1500$). So why I bought it? Because I like it, I want to have it in my collection, I'm not planning to sell it (further more, earn on it). My personal approach is that there are swords you want to: 1. Study and resell. 2. Resell with income as it's a bargain. 3. Keep as investment. 4. Keep it for yourself without plans of reselling (here is where matter becomes really subjective)

Hi, In my opinion, this Tanto is worth 700EUR. As always, if you want to re-sell, there is demand and supply rule in place. So you never know how much you can earn/lose. JASMK certificate for me is also acceptable and ensures you this is genuine Nihonto. https://jasmk.jp/info/index.html

Hi, I can't find anything about "Kokachi de Sanjo" or "Tsurukikimaru". The famous blade from Sanjo Munechika I know about is "Mikazuki Munechika". However, this was (is!) Tachi, not O-Tanto. Well known sword, for ages (owned by Toyotomi Hideyoshi and the Tokugawa shoguns), fitting the story of Edo period blacksmith wanted to make a tribute sword. Maybe also partially true in your case, who knows. For example, it could be the sword was shortened (originally Katana) that is the reason of its odd geometry/Kissaki.

Good call! Now when you pointed this out I can also see that Kissaki seems strange. Is it missing proper Yokote?

Hi, By "recreation" do you mean it is a Gimei? Do I understand correctly? I fully agree with Baba Yaga. It always depends on buyer/seller about the price. It is also difficult to judge if it is worth buying because: 1. Pictures are never the same experience as looking at the blade personally. 2. I've seen swords in great condition bought cheaply and rusty junk sold expensive. It all depends on demand and supply. 3. Some collectors deny Gimei, I have nothing against them if I like the blade and price is fine (have a look on below thread about Gimei I recently bought) https://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic/45588-shinto-wakizashi-hojoji-sadahiro-please-comment/ 4. We don't know the prices. Again, before buying I highly recommend to post in "want to buy" forum section. You might be surprised by results. Good luck!

AOI (Yakuza's store ) is reliable and trustworthy. You can also have a look at: https://www.e-sword.jp/category/wakisashi/ Or (low budget but also risky condition, buying on your own risk): https://www.ebay.com/str/konnichiwatokyo https://www.ebay.com/str/komonjo Please also note that this forum has a members (and/or dealers) that can help. It is worth to start a topic in "want to buy" section. Described what you look for or how much money you have.

Hi Stephen, Here is what I bought. Modern production (20th century). Sword is Shinsakuto, so that should be fine.

Ok, so Tsuba is in terrible condition. I guess same will be for Fuchi/Kashira. I don't think you can restore it. Tsuka is missing Samegawa and Menuki (what is that symbol behind wrapping? Painted/sticker on wood?). Tsuka is a home made reproduction in my opinion. Habaki looks nice. Sword looks like was fitted in Frankenstein Koshirae done by whatever available. Proper Koshirae might cost you more (even just new Shirasaya) then the sword. Still, if you like it, buy it

Hi, I'm total amatory but will share some thoughts. 1. Hamon looks like decent polish, however Hada can suggest that sword was polished multiple times over the time (getting close to core). 2. Nakago looks shortened. 3. I don't see Tsuba or other fittings very well, but I don't like the way Tsuka looks. Doesn't look like a proper Japanese one. Maybe done by someone outside of Japan, poorly if you ask me. 4. Mumei is fine with me, you can have a lot of fun while trying to determine who (or at least which school) was the smith. 5. No papers means lesser price when re-selling, but is it important for you personally? 6. Kozuka is missing. 7. If you like the blade, then simply buy and enjoy! Cheers!

Looks like Tanto to me.

Hi, Bought, will get long Tsuka, a Kakate-Uchi Koshirae style. I'm leaving mei untouched (I heard ideas about removing it since it is gimei). Should be a nice addition to the collection.

Hello, Thank you very much everyone. I was worried that it can be a good reproduction but not Nihonto. I guess buying something from Komonjo without papers is a risk and most probably end up with outside-of-Japan sword. I have a buyer for the sword and will be able to get my money back, so not a big deal. However, lessons learned. @DTM72 I will try to polish my photo-skills, thanks!

Hi, Sword finally arrived, I made some pictures best to my skills. What do you think?

This looks amazing David. Can you please post (or share a link) to more pictures of this sword? Also, some details (smith, date, measurements etc.)?

Hi, Would be nice if you gentlemen could share also a picture or two, of your perfect sword.