TheGermanBastard

Who's that? You mean one of the Chinese Masamune? I fos I can assure that the blade is not coming from a Chinese source but an estate.

@ Ray: I see your point. My impression is that teh Nakago is not in well preserved condition for sure. My feeling is that the blade took some humidty / wetness at sme point leaving pitting on some areas. At first I had onyl seen an image of the Nakago and dimissed the blade as a Suriage Shinto piece. It was not until I had seen the Kissaki that I got interested in it. I had the same thoughts as Jussi then: hi on a shōbu-zukuri not beeing seen often. This aroused my interest and puzzled me at the same time. Since the blade is fully out of polish I can not say much about it at all and it is much guessing only. Maybe there are some bad Kizu to be found uppon arrival and it is no worth further investigation at all. I have to wait and see. What are your takes on hi on a shōbu-zukuri blade? Any reference examples? The last one I had was a Mino Koto piece which I sold to a Japanese buyer on eBay many years ago. It was a very meaty Muromachi piece. This one looks to have a more slender Sugata.

Pre Muromachi

Ideas appreciated. Those images are all I have. of course I do have an oppinion - based on wishfull thinking. Nagasa is about 63 cm Thank you, Luis

Then condition shouldn't be an issue at all.

By beginner I mean someone who just gets into a new hobby. Infact with so many nice swords at very low prices available right now and mabye even better a great selection of translated litarature e.g. by Makus Sesko it is a great opportunity to start in this passion. Again it is offtopic but it is a damm pitty that there are so few new people getting attracted by this great hobby.

> I wish Peter all the luck possible to pass, we should all be happy when peoples swords pass, it keeps this community going forward. I wish Peter lots of luck, too and keep my fingers crossed. As far as Juyo passing goes I have somehow a feeling there is too much bias towards the importance of Juyo where people oversee the beauty of many swords that will never go Juyo due to being an extraordinary work of some smith with less reputation. I think there is much prejudice / bias that may not necessarily help the community as a whole, especially when looking towards beginners who may not feel welcomed due to sort of an elite thing thinking. Peter, if you submitt please let us know the result. Good luck! No matter what the result may be, this is a very nice and desireable sword!

@ Ray: I do not want to go in detail on this as it is offtopic but I do not agree. One of my stocks lost 8% after a bad review on one day. The company that gave the review made its bids on a faling values at the same time and is now under criminal investigations. Anything should be taken with a grain of salt. Look at Tesla. Up and down only based on Elon Musks latest tweet bla bla ... A stock market value is what people think a company is or rather what i will becpme and may highly differ from both the current and future state. Nobody can predict the future as of now. And if you belive some fancy aloghorithm can you like will fall victim to the next Ponzy sheme. Napoleon said only an idiot never changes his oppinion. But changing an oppinion all the time does make someone a genius. Hence the oppinions and accordinghly stock value will change constantly on companies

Another thought: This is a beautifull sword and I can well understand you intention to submitt it for Juyo hence your curiosity what other think. Howeverwith the given images it is not really possible to provide a carefull oppinion. My basic thoughts are that you have a beautifulll TBH bladew with Tanobe Sayagaki. So why does it not have Juyo papers? 1. Because it was not submitted 1.1 Because people thought it had no chance 1.2 Because someone saw no need to 2. Because it failed 2.1 Because it is inapropriate 2.2 Because on that very day the competion was too high In the end it boils down to you just haing to giving it a try. Good luck Peter! I keep my fingers crossed for you!

@ Peter: Regarding your blade & Juyo: Condition. The Horimono is wonderfuöl but has suffered from repeated polishing. This could be a problem. The more recent a sword the better its condition has to be. What is tolerable on a Kamakura blade isn't on a Shinshinto blade. @ All: Tanobe Sensei does have a cheap oppinion like anyone else may have one. But his oppinion is in my humble view currently simply the best (= most valid) in the world. I would prefer his Sayagaki / Oppinion over any set of papers and would rather spend 2k on food and woman than on a sheet of paper. But it is a free world and anybody is enabled to spend his money on what they prefer to. A Juyo paper does not make a sword any better than it is - it just raises the price tag. A good polish can make a sword look better by bringing out its beauty. A bad polish can destory it for good. But a paper only is an oppinion affecting the value such as analyst's oppinion may affect a stock and thus the company value while the company still remains the same ...

Hello Peter, I think the blade is inline with the Muromachi MIno guy but that name. I also see no benefit in faking that guys signature. It is ood though.

Hello Peter, thank you, I thought that too but am uncertain. it would be a very odd Yoshi Kanji, wouldn't it?

I'm seeking advice on the 1st Kanji. 2nd is Kado but 1st one is a mistery to me. Thank you

If the temper runs off the edge in several places I would not consider it a good sword (any longer) ... Sorry, I do not understand what you mean to say. Can you please explain it some more. Thank you.

Reason behind that? Gimei? NihontoCollector, on 15 Dec 2017 - 03:20 AM, said: NihontoCollector, on 15 Dec 2017 - 04:33 AM, said:

Hello Claes, thanks for your positive feedback! It was my pleasure and hope it will give you much joy! Best regards, Luis

NO! I disagree. If you show me images of junk I can tell it is junk. You can take better images and it won't get any prettier ... so there is no reason showing your stuff again and again after you have been told by many knowledgeable people where you are at. I do not think you will get a refund of any kind. Have you read the small print? I would like to think that the auctioneer is not to be held liable in any way and I see no way how you can impose pressure on him. There is much water between you and them. No good. Good luck though.

... "....". Katana = Seki ... Showa ~1900 - 1945 ... Possibly a Gendaito that some Kanji conartist pimped up in a very poor way. Wakizashi = Very late Edo. Dead. Not walking. Just dead. Kodugu = Poor Quality. Possible Mino Fuchi overcleaned ... dead ... not matching ... the Silver Menuki (?) Looks like some post Edo tourist stuff ... Could be some cuff link type thing. Not the real deal ... Tsuba are also lowest quality. Something you would buy on eBay at 10 - 30 bucks given they had not these clumys kanji scratch attempts. You only have to keep on asking more people. It is just a matter of time / amount of people asked until you will find someone who is going to applaud you on a Koto Daisho that is a potential national treaure in the rough. Until then you might also just wish to go with what the vast majorityof people have told you here and on other boards eventhough this means you may not like it. The truth is sometimes not likeable ... lies are sometimes more likeable. The ones we make up ourselves are usually the ones we hold in hightest regards. So you may also wish to keep on believing and be happy ever after - or you face the truth. Your choice. Why are people so obsessed with Daisho ... there are so few true Daishos out there. This is NO Daisho. You bought two crap swords but still there is a lesson to be learned from this. We all fail at times. I now best. So move on and don't waste your time on riding a dead horse. Still I am amazed that a scholar like Tanobe can sum up the beauty of a marvelous sword in a few words ... and others can write a whole fictional short story on mere nothing. I guess the later one is also some kind of art / gift. Back into my hiatus

Thank you Ian!

I bought two items from the recent Thomas del Mar auction and just noticed that thy do not offer inhouse shipping. So I wondered if there is any london based board member who might be interested in handling the packing & shipping for me at a service fee? The blades are housed in Shirasaya and thus rather simple to box up. Still I think a Nihonto enthusiats will probably do a better handling job than most 3rd party services. Aside from being happy to pay for your time and kind efforts you will get the great opprtunity to look at my two failures. Thank you and lookig forward to hearing from anybody interested.

Sold

Farewell

Hello John, you probably are using some CMS like Wordpress, Magneto or Presta Shop etc ... there are plenty of avaiable images viewer plugins. You might want to use one that will just open a Jquery Window allowing a user to his full screen size. The magnifier imager viewer is too small in my umble oppinion. You obviosuly took nice images of very pretty things but it just does away all the details in the smaller viewer.

Looks promising!

Stephen, I am having a hard time at this. Maybe it gets pinked now because it has been flagged for obvious reasons AFTERWARDS. But the sad and disturbing truth is that nobody at the Shinsa team raised the flag. The blade did pas succesfully. If it gets pinked now, it is only because a 3rd party has informed the NTHK about the problem. The failure remains and it would most probably happen again when submitting more of the Chinese blades. It is like with the pupil who removes the wrong result with a rubber and writes down the correct one after somebody else pointed it out to him. It is still a failure and does not make it right ... hey, you have a hole in your knee? No problem ... let me just cover it up with some tape and you are fine ... Nope. The thing is NOT that this blade was made in China. Any debae on this would be xenophobian at "best" ... even a round eye can do a good sword with the proper training and gift. The thing is that a recently made sword goot papered as an Edo periode one. No good. How can we be certain then that our Hein periode blade isn't just a Shinshinto copy? We maybe never can be for sure ... but now the term sure has just become more vague / questionable.