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 Post subject: Am I a Manchurian blade???
PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 1:55 pm 
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Hi again everyone,

Can you help to confirm or correct my findings please.

A good friend of mine bought a 'Mantetsu' sword, set up in full naval Kai-Gunto, with a ray saya, clear lacquered. As pretty as a picture, he has shown it to me, and I asked why he called it a Mantetsu blade, it was because he was told that, and it was made out of railway lines.

Well I don't think it is! Here's what I think, the anchor stamp on the nakago is not a Naval acceptance stamp. I have seen this stamp before and always on swords made at the Tenshozan Taren-jo forge in Kamakura Japan. The anchor is the workshops trademark stamp, and they produced dress swords exclusively for the Navy.

Now I am right or wrong depending on the Tachi-mei translation, can you help please. :dunno:

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Denis.


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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 2:18 pm 
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 2:33 pm 
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Seeing as how the mei reads "Tenshozan Tanren Jo Kitae kore" I would think it was indeed made at the naval shop in Tenshozan and not a Mantetsu blade....

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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 4:23 pm 
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Brian, Thanks no wonder I tried to ages to upload, Tiff versus Jpeg, I should have known better.

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And to you Chris, just the answer I was hoping for, definite conformation.

Cheers both.

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 1:41 am 
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Just a thought, all the Mantetsu blades I have had , the mei has been a master piece, so different from all other blades so as to make them un mistakable.
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 8:42 am 
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Hi Roy

Do all the Manchurian blades carry a stamp of an M straddling a cross section railway line?

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Most do not. I believe it is only the early ones that have this mark...

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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 4:36 pm 
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Dr Fox wrote:
Do all the Manchurian blades carry a stamp of an M straddling a cross section railway line?


Not sure we are talking about the same but the W stamp appears on blades made by Takehisa and Haruhisa.

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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2012 11:09 am 
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Thanks Chris

I had been told it was the definitive stamp for the Koa Isshin blade, and that is why I have never seen one as it is an early mark.

And Bruno thanks for your input, it is an M and not a W. the M straddles a section of railway line,i.e. as looked at end on. If I had known this has been covered this forum Stamp/crest on a gusto. Wed 23 June 2010. By Arnaud.

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