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Jantonu954

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Hello Everyone, hoping someone can help read primarily the date, and of course maker if possible to distinguish. Sword has been with my family for many years, I have always wanted to know its age and lineage for personal knowledge, couldn't ever think of selling it as its become very special to me. Thank you in advance.

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Hi  Jantonu,

I think your sword inscription reads as follows-

Omote- Sunshu Shimada ju

Ura - Mikawa no Kami Minamoto Sadasuke

 

Full reading - Sunshu Shimada ju Mikawa no Kami Minamoto Sadasuke

 

There is no date on your sword, possibly first generation working 1624

 

Simon K

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Simon has it right -

     Jantonu (sorry don't know how I should address you) this is most likely the fourth generation since he uses the character 参 san instead of 三 san, for his title Mikawa no kami - an interesting piece for research. Would love to see pictures of the blade...

-t

(for Tom or Toryu)

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Thank you for the information Simon and Tom. I will take some pictures of the blade tonight. I hope you will indulge me with some novice questions on how to interpret the inscription.

Sunshu Shimada - The School correct ? I assume this school operated before the Shinto period but can not find precise dates or information on the school specifically online (or have not yet found I should say)

Mikawa no Kami - Tom said this is the sword smith's title, would you explain the significance.

Minamoto Sadasuke - the craftsman's given name?  I have seen reference to a "Minamoto  Rai Sadasuke" would this be the same person or reletive? the Later was late 17th century and signed  Sunshu Shimada ju Mikawa Daijo Minamoto Rai Sadasuke would titles have changed through a career from Mikawa no Kami to Mikawa Daijo?

 

Again thank you for the information,

James (apologies I was being rude and didn't realize)

 

Adding Pics, Tips on better photography method appreciated too :-)

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from Markus book:

SADASUKE (貞助), Kanbun (寛文, 1661-1673), Suruga – “Sadasuke” (貞助), “Sunshū Shimada-jū Kawachi no Daijō Rai Sadasuke” (駿州島田住河内大掾来貞助), “Mikawa no Daijō Minamoto Rai Sadasuke” (参河大掾源来貞助), “Mikawa no Kami Minamoto Sadasuke Sunshū Shimada-jū” (三河守源貞助駿州島田住), he signed the character for “Mi” (三) in the honorary title Mikawa no Daijō also as (参), mostly a chū-suguha, chūjō-saku

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Dear James.

 

Finding detailed information about a smith is difficult for many reasons, we are after all talking about someone who worked a long time ago.  You have probably already come across this, if not then well worth buying.   https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=tVEWBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA206&lpg=PA206&dq=Shinto+Shimada+school&source=bl&ots=jJsDMViwPa&sig=BHTubxtEKEX_-1hswkU2BdeJjcM&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=Shinto%20Shimada%20school&f=false

 

You might also find this useful for background, http://www.sho-shin.com/tokai6.htm 

 

Most likely you will have to piece together information from a variety of sources, though Markus has done most of that work for us, and don't be surprised if they contradict one another sometimes.

 

Enjoy the sword.

 

All the best.

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