drjoe Posted April 8, 2012 Report Posted April 8, 2012 one of paul martin's posted youtube videos shows sugita yoshiaki making a shinsakuto with juka choji without using clay! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_voOugY ... ure=relmfu amazing! i would have never thought this possible. what if anything do we know about how koto juka choji were made? Quote
John A Stuart Posted April 8, 2012 Report Posted April 8, 2012 There is much investigation of yaki-ire using the steam as having an insulating quality and quite amazing results. See Yoshindo Yoshiharu san et al. Leon Kapp. John Quote
drjoe Posted April 8, 2012 Author Report Posted April 8, 2012 There is much investigation of yaki-ire using the steam as having an insulating quality and quite amazing results. See Yoshindo Yoshiharu san et al. Leon Kapp. John i just flipped through the book, but did not find any discussion of this, and yoshindo clearly uses clay for his bizen style choji hamon. still wondering if clay-less tempering was common in juka-choji. i'm guessing not. on a separate note, sounds like sugita-san just passed away this week. a timely post then highlighting his impressive work. Quote
Brian Posted April 8, 2012 Report Posted April 8, 2012 Yep, it is a great loss of a huge talent. Condolences to all who knew him. Brian Quote
kusunokimasahige Posted April 8, 2012 Report Posted April 8, 2012 Brian, do you mean Sugita Yoshiaki ? That indeed is sad news May the Kami guide his spirit on Takama-no-hara, and may Buddha let him sit beside him as Bodhisattva. KM Quote
cabowen Posted April 8, 2012 Report Posted April 8, 2012 Sad news indeed...I met him several times and he was always very gracious....best wishes to his family.... Quote
drjoe Posted April 9, 2012 Author Report Posted April 9, 2012 Elsehwere Ford Hallam was kind enough to post a link to an entire page of Sugita-san's work: http://www.justmystage.com/home/syouji3/index.html I would still like to see an explanation of how the Juka Choji gets formed without clay. I can see the thickness of the blade acting as insulation and being able to see this potential in the glowing steel just prior to quenching, possibly san mai construction playing a role, and even the steam theory suggested above. What I don't understand is how you'd be able to control this -- e.g. where the ashi come from within the choji hamon, how you'd avoid getting tons of hitatsura (there is a fair amount in many of these blades), or how you'd ever expect the boshi to come our right... Quote
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