jason_mazzy Posted October 21, 2010 Report Posted October 21, 2010 What is this signature? Edit* back to original post.
W K Clifford Posted October 21, 2010 Report Posted October 21, 2010 志津三郎兼氏作 Shizu Saburo Kaneuji saku wow! Is it for sale?
jason_mazzy Posted October 21, 2010 Author Report Posted October 21, 2010 oh my. here are the other pics.
jason_mazzy Posted October 21, 2010 Author Report Posted October 21, 2010 I quite like the tsubas. My friend found it at an estate. was curious about it. is it possible to translate the papers behind the tsuba?
W K Clifford Posted October 21, 2010 Report Posted October 21, 2010 is it possible to translate the papers behind the tsuba? yes, if you have better pictures to be honest, the blade does not look too good. nor do the tsubas...
jason_mazzy Posted October 21, 2010 Author Report Posted October 21, 2010 looks like something I wouldn't mind hanging in the asian room.
cabowen Posted October 21, 2010 Report Posted October 21, 2010 These are reproduction decorator items, not even close to real.....
jason_mazzy Posted October 21, 2010 Author Report Posted October 21, 2010 Didn't think so. but I liked the look of the tsuba as a wall piece. Fun way to display without using real antiques. Post started as a translation of the mei, but yimu did that and then I was curious about the rest.
sanjuro Posted October 21, 2010 Report Posted October 21, 2010 In answer to the question does this look real? Quite frankly, NO! This stuff comes up on ebay from time to time and they are invariably what they look like - wall hangers with alloy replicas in them. Great for hanging in the bar at home (if you like this sort of thing on your walls). Strictly for the lower end of the American tourist trade IMHO Its reasonable to suspect them of being fakes when you consider that a real blade would not be chrome plated, and if not plated would require maintenance. If so maintained and kept oiled it would accumulate dust and crud like a magnet attracts iron filings in this style of display.
jason_mazzy Posted October 21, 2010 Author Report Posted October 21, 2010 that was my thoughts, I was looking for a wall hanging piece and shadow box ideas, and found this. I thought the blade was chrome plated, but the tsubas looked thick. I do not have this in hand. An aquaintance was looking for stuff for me and found this, and sent me these phone camera shots. For $40 I think it will look good on my basement wall.
kuromido Posted October 21, 2010 Report Posted October 21, 2010 Hi Jason, Please tell me you are screwing with us!! I dont want to offend but those are glaring examples of tourist junk. Question, Have you ever seen in any book on Japanese armor or swords a gleaming mirror chrome kabuto? Or a nihonto with mirror polished hada AND hamon? or a genuine tsuba with no patina? Books,shows,museums and study are the key my friend. With sincere appreciation for your passion and no insult intended, Cheers, PeterD
jason_mazzy Posted October 21, 2010 Author Report Posted October 21, 2010 Hi Jason, Please tell me you are screwing with us!!I dont want to offend but those are glaring examples of tourist junk. Question, Have you ever seen in any book on Japanese armor or swords a gleaming mirror chrome kabuto? Or a nihonto with mirror polished hada AND hamon? or a genuine tsuba with no patina? Books,shows,museums and study are the key my friend. With sincere appreciation for your passion and no insult intended, Cheers, PeterD I was looking for a tourist piece to hang in the basement. An aquaintance found this and shot me some cellphone pics. I was curious what the mei on the handle said. When it was translated as a known smith I was thinking "What in the world I expected it to say peace love and harmony or some other funky chinese box saying. So that is why I asked any chance these r real? ". I knew the kabuto was a decorative piece, and that the blade looked shiney. Since it was from an estate sale. Like I originally said, I thought it was funky looking and reproduction, just wasn't expecting a famous name smith to be caligraphy on the handle, So I had to ask just to double check. besides being form far away on a phone who knows what the pieces actually look like.
Brian Posted October 21, 2010 Report Posted October 21, 2010 Jason, Trying to be diplomatic, but you need to spare us things like this. I consider this an abuse of the kind and generous translations that people spend so much time offering here. This is junk. Pure and simple, and a translation doesn't change that. I do not want our valuable translators taken advantage of. No offense intended but this $40 rubbish serves no purpose here on the forum. Brian
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