rodeocb34 Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 Any experts out there have an idea about this signature? May be too hard to read given the corrosion. Grateful for any insight though. Any information, really, based on what's observed. Thanks! Quote
nulldevice Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 以南蛮鐵越前康繼 The first kanji are a bit hard to make out but based on what I can see this is likely it. Motte Nanban Tetsu Echizen Yasutsugu Echizen Yasutsugu is a very famous smith lineage from the late 1500s to 1600s who used "nanban tetsu" barbarian steel to make swords. 1 Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 If you can provide pictures of the full sword and mounts it would be appreciated. Whereabouts in Australia are you located? Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 Declarations like this of proud usage of Namban Tetsu tend to occur in a window of around 1600-1700. 4 Quote
2devnul Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 7 hours ago, Bugyotsuji said: Namban Tetsu tend to occur in a window of around 1600-1700. Hi, my thoughts exactly, Koto (1500s) swords don't find Nanban smithing IMO. 8 hours ago, nulldevice said: Echizen Yasutsugu is a very famous smith lineage from the late 1500s to 1600s who used "nanban tetsu" barbarian steel to make swords. Are you sure? Again, 1600s up is what I thought Nanban-tetsu. Quote
nulldevice Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 1 hour ago, 2devnul said: Hi, my thoughts exactly, Koto (1500s) swords don't find Nanban smithing IMO. Are you sure? Again, 1600s up is what I thought Nanban-tetsu. I just pulled up the dates for the shodai Yasutsugu who signed with Nanban Tetsu and who’s active period starts in 1594 and continues into the 1600s followed by later generations who also signed that way and also used the Aoi Mon. Quote
2devnul Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 1 minute ago, PNSSHOGUN said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanban_trade John, I know the history, it is just that per my knowledge we don't see reference to European steel in signatures until Shinto swords. Am I wrong? Quote
2devnul Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 Just now, nulldevice said: period starts in 1594 and continues into the 1600s That makes more sense, thanks! Quote
ROKUJURO Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 Again, this belongs into the TRANSLATION section. Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted June 29 Report Posted June 29 There was supposed to be more in that reply, but Shodai Yasutsugu was a very much a Keicho era smith and Nanban Tetsu has a broad meaning not just limited to Dutch or Portugese trade. Quote
robinalexander Posted June 30 Report Posted June 30 Hi Calvin @rodeocb34 It would be great if you could ask whoever is responsible for that sword to please get some oil on the blade as an interim measure to look after it. That is active rust if I'm not mistaken. It's slowly dying. Rob 1 Quote
Jacques Posted June 30 Report Posted June 30 (edited) At first glance, it looks like the Echizen sandai Yasutsugu, but I can't be sure about the authenticity of the mei, the photo is too blurry. Edited June 30 by Jacques 1 Quote
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