Gilles Posted Sunday at 08:54 AM Report Posted Sunday at 08:54 AM Dear follow collectors, I am trying to translate a mei from a hira zukuri tanto with a hitatsura hamon. If you can help on this one, I will appreciate a lot. For the swordsmith name, it seems to start by "BI" but is it Bizen ???? For the date, It starts with" EI" but I can't figure out the following kanji...... 1 Quote
Jussi Ekholm Posted Sunday at 09:14 AM Report Posted Sunday at 09:14 AM I am just on my phone so away from references but the signature would seem to be 備州住助家 / 永仁六年 Bishū jū Sukeie / Einin 6th year (1298) The rarer form of 州 used but I cant easily find that kanji on my phone. 4 Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted Sunday at 09:54 AM Report Posted Sunday at 09:54 AM Jussi and Uwe are correct. Shū 州 (province) was written several ways. Quote
Gilles Posted Sunday at 10:18 AM Author Report Posted Sunday at 10:18 AM Thank you very much gentlemen. It helps a lot. I doubt that this tanto is so old. Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted Monday at 07:17 AM Report Posted Monday at 07:17 AM Cleaning an old matchlock pistol today and realized the 州 is written in the same manner, 刕 three blades, which I had thought was only used by swordsmiths. Perhaps the gunsmith was originally a katana kaji.(?) 2 Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted Tuesday at 04:06 AM Report Posted Tuesday at 04:06 AM Today I discovered the reason for this use of three blades for 州 Shū province. The kanji can be seen as three ‘standing’ 立刀 ‘rittō’ blades. See the right side of 割, for example. 3 of these blades, but then piled neatly in a heap, = 刕 Although it is not included in many dictionaries today, it was a conventional usage often found in 古文書 old manuscripts. 3 Quote
Lareon Posted Tuesday at 07:57 AM Report Posted Tuesday at 07:57 AM i love etymoloy and the etymology of the characters is so interesting, pictoral origins and how they combine. 1 Quote
Gilles Posted Tuesday at 08:13 AM Author Report Posted Tuesday at 08:13 AM Thank you Piers for this explanation. 1 Quote
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