Octo2k Posted October 16 Report Posted October 16 Can u tell me anything about this? all i know, its 30+ years old... could be way more old... 30+ is sure.. thats all in know. thanks to all experts who helps me! Quote
Rawa Posted October 16 Report Posted October 16 Fresh Chinese. Bohi, mekugi ana, writing. Fresh batch of laito. It isn't sharp I suppose. Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted October 16 Report Posted October 16 Hi Jens, Others will know more, but while we wait, the logo on the nakago (tang) is the same as the Nakano Shoten: Nakano Shoten Located in Tokyo. This company was owned by Mr. Nakano. In addition to Tokyo, the company had shops in China. The company provided a full range of koshirae. The tsuka wrap is folded in the Japanese way - alternating fold directions. Chinese work usually folds in one direction. So, that seems legit. However the whole thing appears pretty new. One thing that bothers me is the bohi, or fuller groove on the blade. It starts too far down the blade from the handle and is not well defined, compared to Japanese work. My gut feel is that this is a modern reproduction. I don't know if Nakano is still operating, either. Quote
Rawa Posted October 16 Report Posted October 16 Just now, Bruce Pennington said: Hi Jens, Others will know more, but while we wait, the logo on the nakago (tang) is the same as the Nakano Shoten: Nakano Shoten Located in Tokyo. This company was owned by Mr. Nakano. In addition to Tokyo, the company had shops in China. The company provided a full range of koshirae. The tsuka wrap is folded in the Japanese way - alternating fold directions. Chinese work usually folds in one direction. So, that seems legit. However the whole thing appears pretty new. One thing that bothers me is the bohi, or fuller groove on the blade. It starts too far down the blade from the handle and is not well defined, compared to Japanese work. My gut feel is that this is a modern reproduction. I don't know if Nakano is still operating, either. Would you order being Japanese company manager blade with that kind of bohi? Also second mekugi ana appears not to be visible with second mekugi. Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted October 16 Report Posted October 16 It caught my eye that the company had shops in China. The painted numbering on the nakago looks modern, too. 1 Quote
Octo2k Posted October 16 Author Report Posted October 16 30 years ago, it has been sharpened once to make it "safe" for childrens in the house.. before that, it was extrem extrem extremely sharp! i know, the condition is insane... but it was like the holy item of my dad... he cared about it, as its hes own children haha.. but it really is 30years+... i dont know how old excatly.. can just remember this since im a kid so 30 years ago... im sooo insecure about this one if its real like 200+ years or maybe replica... have no idea Quote
Octo2k Posted October 16 Author Report Posted October 16 i can surely tell u its easily 30+ years old.. even it looks pretty new... where the mei is on the blade, the opposite site it has alot of rust... there it doesnt look clean / new.. only the blade looks that perfect Quote
Rawa Posted October 16 Report Posted October 16 (edited) Bro here is my ryan sword I bought 20 years ago. Ofcourse chinese but I like it. What you call as real? To be traditional made it must be layered steel. Not maru. And that's only start. Edited October 16 by Rawa Quote
Octo2k Posted October 16 Author Report Posted October 16 it really looks insane! this is such a beauty one! u have mei aswell? Quote
Rawa Posted October 16 Report Posted October 16 (edited) Yes it was signed and stamped by maker so blade wasn't made to deceive buyer. Edited October 16 by Rawa 1 Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted October 16 Report Posted October 16 The similar black ‘patina’ on the habaki and seppa makes me think it is not old. Hard to see much in the photos. Try taking it to a sword show for certainty. OK, we get it’s not brand new, but 30 years, 40 years, 50 years is nothing in the life of a Japanese sword. All modern. 1 Quote
Octo2k Posted October 16 Author Report Posted October 16 bugyotsuji, thanks alot! yes in the sword world its not old... i just hope it passes 100+ years but i probably have to let it check by some one to make sure.. Quote
Rawa Posted October 16 Report Posted October 16 (edited) 100% not a 100years old. Look on grind signs on nakago. How you got it? Some sellers based in Japan doing something in a "from Japan so Japanese" manner. Edited October 16 by Rawa Quote
Octo2k Posted October 16 Author Report Posted October 16 this is what u meant? sorry im new in this sword topic haha... Quote
Scogg Posted October 16 Report Posted October 16 This appears to be a ~30-50 year old replica of a Japanese sword A nice heirloom worthy of cherishing; but not antique. In my opinion, -Sam Quote
Octo2k Posted October 16 Author Report Posted October 16 @Rawa my dad hat it since i can remember... so 30 years +... got it from my dad... where he got it from, idk.. he was always so proud if this Quote
Octo2k Posted October 16 Author Report Posted October 16 aswell on the "case" it has gold as u can see.. i think thats real gold, otherwise it would vanished a bit in all that years i think? what u guys think, its worth? i have no idea where these priced at +- Quote
Rawa Posted October 16 Report Posted October 16 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Octo2k said: this is what u meant? sorry im new in this sword topic haha... I see only one but on tang is another hole. Edited October 16 by Rawa Quote
Octo2k Posted October 16 Author Report Posted October 16 it has excatly these 2 holes 👍 lemme open the mei again then i show u haha... so i can pic the other site aswell. Quote
Octo2k Posted October 16 Author Report Posted October 16 i aswell found this: The Nakano Shoten in Tokyo was a well-known provider of koshirae (sword fittings) and other sword accessories, especially during the time of World War II. It was owned by Mr. Nakano and also had branches in China. Unfortunately, there is no precise information available about the founding or closing dates of Nakano Shoten. Some reports mention that similar shops still exist today as tourist attractions, but without specific details about their current status. If you own a sword stamped by Nakano Shoten, it is likely a military Gunto from the World War II era, outfitted by this company. These swords were often made for officers and soldiers and are now highly sought after by collectors. For more accurate dating and authentication of your sword, it is recommended to consult an expert in Japanese swords or a specialized auction house. They can help determine the age and origin of your katana precisely. looks interesting for me Quote
charlesf Posted October 16 Report Posted October 16 Your sword has nice fittings but is an iaito with an alloy,not steel,blade,made for the practice of iaido. charles. 1 Quote
Octo2k Posted October 16 Author Report Posted October 16 @charlesf u sure? it originally was sharpened extremely... cuted everything easily... then it got re sharpened to make it safe for children yk.. original it was really sharp Quote
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