Marcel Posted Wednesday at 02:49 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 02:49 PM Hi, I have a mysterious "shin-gunto" here. It has all the elements of a type 98 when stored in its sheath. But it turns out it's not that simple. The blade resembles that of a type 95. However, this one isn't numbered and doesn't have an arsenal stamp. According to Google Lens, the characters on the tang are Chinese characters (I hope Google Lens is wrong). If I combine two of the three characters, it would say (in Chinese) "made in the workshop." I can't decipher the middle character. The tsuba and seppa are all numbered "10." One of the menuki was removed at some point. The sarute is made of leather!?! The saya is of the type 98 but with a coarse texture. In a post by Butch on July 16th of last year, I see a similar type but without the three characters. 1 Quote
Marcel Posted Wednesday at 02:52 PM Author Report Posted Wednesday at 02:52 PM And some more pictures Quote
Conway S Posted Wednesday at 03:25 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 03:25 PM The sword is authentic. It is what is referred to as a zohei-to and the mei reads “Zoheisho.” See the below link with good information. http://ohmura-study.net/206.html Per forum guidelines you should also sign posts with a first name. Conway Quote
Marcel Posted Wednesday at 03:47 PM Author Report Posted Wednesday at 03:47 PM Thanks so much for your quick response and link! I'm glad it's not a Chinese replica. It was also virtually impossible because it had been in the previous owner's family for over 50 years. Marcel Quote
Marcel Posted Wednesday at 04:23 PM Author Report Posted Wednesday at 04:23 PM It looks like the menuki was removed deliberatly. What could be the reason for this? Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted Wednesday at 06:42 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 06:42 PM My dad got our sword when he was in the Marines after Korea. It was missing several parts. He said guys would steal parts and pieces because they thought they were real gold, or had jewels. @SteveM or @Kiipu - could we get a translation on the nakago? Marcel, The fittings look like the original officer paid for upgrades. It was likely quite nice, originally. Quote
Kiipu Posted Wednesday at 07:09 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 07:09 PM 5 hours ago, Conway S said: It is what is referred to as a zohei-to and the mei reads “Zoheisho.” 造兵廠 zōheishō How much should I spend? 1 1 Quote
Marcel Posted Wednesday at 07:29 PM Author Report Posted Wednesday at 07:29 PM 45 minutes ago, Bruce Pennington said: My dad got our sword when he was in the Marines after Korea. It was missing several parts. He said guys would steal parts and pieces because they thought they were real gold, or had jewels. @SteveM or @Kiipu - could we get a translation on the nakago? Marcel, The fittings look like the original officer paid for upgrades. It was likely quite nice, originally. Thanks Bruce, that could indeed be a logical explanation. Quote
Scogg Posted Wednesday at 08:09 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 08:09 PM I recently picked up a sword, that similarly has what appears to be an intentionally/selectively removed menuki. I suspect Bruce is correct, especially if the missing menuki had the family mon on it (in my case, a possibility). Which would increase its perceived value. Just a theory about missing menuki. -Sam 2 1 Quote
ROKUJURO Posted 15 hours ago Report Posted 15 hours ago On 9/17/2025 at 4:49 PM, Marcel said: .....According to Google Lens, the characters on the tang are Chinese characters (I hope Google Lens is wrong).... Marcel, GOOGLE is correct in this case. Japanese KANJI are basically Chinese symbols that are used in Japanese script. However, they are differently pronounced 1 Quote
Marcel Posted 14 hours ago Author Report Posted 14 hours ago 28 minutes ago, ROKUJURO said: Marcel, GOOGLE is correct in that case. Japanese KANJI are basically Chinese symbols that are used in Japanese script. However, they are differently pronounced Thanks Jean, I learn something everyday! Quote
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