Anto Posted July 15 Report Posted July 15 First time poster here, this is my first sword and I had some questions about the validity of it. Very new to these so i apologize for anything I missed with my pictures. I’m just worried because the edge is very flat and I can only think of someone grinding it down for safety reasons after it’s brought back, please let me know. Edit: was able to upload most of them, sorry still new to this. Quote
Anto Posted July 15 Author Report Posted July 15 31 minutes ago, Rawa said: Link dsnt work Im trying to upload the pictures but it says every single one is too big no matter what I do. Quote
Anto Posted July 15 Author Report Posted July 15 2 minutes ago, Anto said: Just now, Lareon said: And the blade has no edge at all? Just now, Lareon said: And the blade has no edge at all? No it’s perfectly flat on the edge. Quote
Lareon Posted July 15 Report Posted July 15 Can you take a photo of the whole blade completely out of its fittings. The nakago says Showa jugo-nen juni gatsu kitchi jitsu A lucky day in December 1940 (showa 15th year) The Smith is Take- ??? Maybe Takeyoshi but I find the wartime Kanji harder to read a lot of the time. Maybe someone can read it better Quote
Lareon Posted July 15 Report Posted July 15 Not sure on the damaged blade edge but I would say the sword is genuine. Just abused. 1 Quote
Lareon Posted July 15 Report Posted July 15 Look around the nakago (tang) are there any more marks (stamps) that were covered by the fittings Quote
Rawa Posted July 15 Report Posted July 15 @Bruce Pennington type 98 with central chuso? Should they appear late war? But this fat closed tsuba... Mei looks promising. Nice executed. More like gendaito. Maybe random assembly. Quote
Anto Posted July 15 Author Report Posted July 15 1 minute ago, Lareon said: Look around the nakago (tang) are there any more marks (stamps) that were covered by the fittings No just blank underneath Quote
Rawa Posted July 15 Report Posted July 15 Would put my money on it being fine gendaito just in need of polish. Quote
Anto Posted July 15 Author Report Posted July 15 Just now, Rawa said: Would put my money on it being fine gendaito just in need of polish. Even with it having a completely flat edge? It’s completely flat along the entire length. Quote
Lareon Posted July 15 Report Posted July 15 1940 no acceptance stamps. Possible gendaito. Nicely struck mei. Obviously if the sword is in poor condition you may not be able to see it. If you hold the sword to the light and look down the blade. Gently move it, can you see a Hamon on the blade ? Quote
Lareon Posted July 15 Report Posted July 15 Just now, Anto said: Even with it having a completely flat edge? It’s completely flat along the entire length. Well this is an oddity but something probably done later in its life. Quote
Anto Posted July 15 Author Report Posted July 15 Just now, Lareon said: 1940 no acceptance stamps. Possible gendaito. Nicely struck mei. Obviously if the sword is in poor condition you may not be able to see it. If you hold the sword to the light and look down the blade. Gently move it, can you see a Hamon on the blade ? Yes I believe I can see one Quote
Anto Posted July 15 Author Report Posted July 15 Just now, Lareon said: Well this is an oddity but something probably done later in its life. Does that mean someone took the edge off here? Quote
Rawa Posted July 15 Report Posted July 15 Maybe somebody grinded ha to fit in this koshirae? parts looks good. Quote
Lareon Posted July 15 Report Posted July 15 Just now, Rawa said: Maybe somebody grinded ha to fit in this koshirae? Don't make me feel sick Quote
Rawa Posted July 15 Report Posted July 15 Men it is possible. Owner should look closely for hamon line if it isnt too low. Chcking this tsuba now. Center chuso, one haikan, tsuba from first years of production? 1 Quote
Lareon Posted July 15 Report Posted July 15 1 minute ago, Anto said: Does that mean someone took the edge off here? No way to tell. Someone could have tried to sharpen it in their shed and botched it. Got a close-up of the edge? Quote
Anto Posted July 15 Author Report Posted July 15 1 minute ago, Lareon said: No way to tell. Someone could have tried to sharpen it in their shed and botched it. Got a close-up of the edge? Hope this helps Quote
Scogg Posted July 15 Report Posted July 15 Just now, Anto said: Does that mean someone took the edge off here? Probably. There’s also swords that don’t have an edge, but those are more typically “dress” swords. Never seen a type 98 without an edge. It’s evident that many individuals who brought swords back from the war did not carry the same respect that we might today. I’ve seen swords abused in all sorts of ways, some much worse than this. My own inherited sword, my grandpa spray painted gold . Maybe someone, sometime in the past, decided to “make it safe”, maybe in fear that a kid in the home may mishandle it. Looks legit to me, though. All the best, -Sam 2 1 Quote
Lareon Posted July 15 Report Posted July 15 3 minutes ago, Rawa said: Men it is possible. Owner should look closely for hamon line if it isnt too low. Chcking this tsuba now. Center chuso, one haikan, tsuba from first years of production? Also has the thick Seppa Quote
Anto Posted July 15 Author Report Posted July 15 1 minute ago, Scogg said: Probably. There’s also swords that don’t have an edge, but those are more typically “dress” swords. Never seen a type 98 without an edge. It’s evident that many individuals who brought swords back from the war did not carry the same respect that we might today. I’ve seen swords abused in all sorts of ways, some much worse than this. My own inherited sword, my grandpa spray painted gold . Maybe someone, sometime in the past, decided to “make it safe”, maybe in fear that a kid in the home may mishandle it. Looks legit to me, though. All the best, -Sam So it’s something I should return yes? I paid a decent amount for it. Quote
Rawa Posted July 15 Report Posted July 15 Could you tell us how much? Wait for smith name. It have good mountings. Quote
Anto Posted July 15 Author Report Posted July 15 Just now, Rawa said: Could you tell us how mch? Wait for smith name. It have good mountings. I believe it says Takenori and I paid 1,000$. Quote
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