What about this one?

[Rawa]

Wait for others opinion. It can be genuine afterall. But its not a real blade. Its just a frame with wooden substitute.

[Rawa]

If you like to hunt please consider looking after on this link:

https://www.liveauctioneers.com/search/?keyword=Gunto&sort=-relevance&status=online

But try to dig more info. I usually always ask before purchase.

[Rawa]

And one advice - if you buy in europe you dont have to worry about customs/taxes etc.

[Scogg]

Hard to keep up with this thread...

I highly doubt the Tsuba changed color, I think it's just different lighting conditions. Looks like the same tsuba to me.

It appears that the Tsuba, fuchi and seppa have the digit 3 stamped on them, and the tsuka has 33 cut into it. These were typically assembly numbers that were stamped on the fittings to keep them together. But 3 and 33 are 30 digits apart. So, are they matching? Or are they not? I cannot tell for certain.

When you ask if there are any swords or gunto that are reasonably priced, I am a little confused, because the koshirae in question is not a sword. It's just the fittings on a tsunagi (wooden blade). 

WW2 Gunto can be found for reasonable prices. I've seen many sell for between $750 and several thousand dollars. BUT if you're just looking for a set of fittings, then you can easily find something for under $1,000.

What are you looking for, exactly? 
Hope this helps,
-Sam 

[aftakas]

I want a Japanese ww2 sword original with blade, and i think more than 800 euro (something like 850 900 dollars i think) is the max.

Doenst have to be in perfect or good condition, some tear or wear is fine by me.

(Like battledamage)

And your right, i dont want an koshirae, or i have to find an blade with it.

[aftakas]

@Rawa yeah thx, if i find something i post it here.

[Lexvdjagt]

3 minutes ago, aftakas said:

@Rawa yeah thx, if i find something i post it here.

 

3 minutes ago, aftakas said:

I want a Japanese ww2 sword original with blade, and i think more than 800 euro (something like 850 900 dollars i think) is the max.

Doenst have to be in perfect or good condition, some tear or wear is fine by me.

(Like battledamage)

And your right, i dont want an koshirae, or i have to find an blade with it.

Hallo Jelle,

 

I would also like to point out that it would be beneficial if you joined De Nederlandse Token vereniging (Dutch Token Society). We offer 4 yearly meetups, with lectures and the possibility to sell or trade blades. You can always join one meeting to see if it would fit your taste. You might be able to find something there that fits your needs. http://www.to-ken.nl/

Greetings,

Lex

[aftakas]

And what about this one, looks different than the most ones. And the numbers are not the same, is that a problem or is that common?

[aftakas]

Hey @Lexvdjagt thx for the tip, is there a market for gunto there?

[Rawa]

Its 1935 at omura study link. You should read more men. Look for Gunto NCO 95

[Lexvdjagt]

3 minutes ago, aftakas said:

Hey @Lexvdjagt thx for the tip, is there a market for gunto there?

I know some gendaito/gunto collectors that display their items for sale at the meet-ups. Would it have to be traditionally made? 

[aftakas]

No fabrik is okey

[aftakas]

But @Rawa you think this one is genuine?

[Scogg]

Yes, that’s a genuine Type 95 NCO Shin-Gunto. It’s the pattern 2 variation with a brass tsuba and aluminum tsuka. 

 

 It’s pretty common that the scabbard number does not match, but it does detract from the value. A matching scabbard would be more desirable. 

I’d highly recommend taking the advice of@Lexvdjagt . A great opportunity to view swords and get an idea of what you like. 
-Sam 

 

[Bruce Pennington]

Late to the conversation here, sorry. All the parts look World War II era, to me. Never seen anything like that tsuba design. The sakura and other craftsmanship on it look high-quality.  I’ve seen silvered tsuba and blackened ones. So that doesn’t bother me. I’ve just never seen a pattern like that on one before. If you ask me, it was a serious custom job.

 

 

[ROKUJURO]

6 hours ago, Rawa said:

..... this tsuba ... Mimi [oval part of tsuba] should be smooth.....

The oval part is the SEPPA-DAI. MIMI is the outer rim.

[Rawa]

Yes I meant outer rim part. Which is no oval.

[aftakas]

Oke that is nice, and is there a market for used blades for the kosihae, or is it hard to find?

[Scogg]

Koshirae is made specifically for each individual blade; so the fit is tight.
It would be very difficult, maybe impossible, to find a loose blade that fits a random set of koshirae properly. 

You might get lucky someday, but it's generally not a recommended endeavor. 

Best to find a blade that already has it's koshirae - if that's what you're looking for.
All the best,
-Sam

[aftakas]

@Scoggoke thx

[aftakas]

Oke