Spartancrest Posted August 12, 2024 Report Posted August 12, 2024 I have seen antler, bone, horn and ivory tsuba but this is the first Narwhal tusk tsuba I have ever seen. 64 mm x 40 mm x 6.3 mm it isn't a very large guard taken as a cross section. All Narwal tusks are rather slim. https://www.jauce.com/auction/n1148353109 I suppose you could get a lot cut from the one tusk but where will you ever see one again? Has anyone ever seen another? 5 3 Quote
Matsunoki Posted August 12, 2024 Report Posted August 12, 2024 Nope, never……but that does not look like Japanese workmanship to me. Nakago ana.??? 1 Quote
Jake6500 Posted August 12, 2024 Report Posted August 12, 2024 This is bizarre. I remember reading that the Greenland Vikings were big on the narwhal tusk trade and would sell them in the Mediterranean. Apparently people believed the tusks had medicinal properties or that they were "unicorn horns". Not saying there's any connection here, just an interesting side point. 1 Quote
Spartancrest Posted August 12, 2024 Author Report Posted August 12, 2024 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Jake6500 said: that they were "unicorn horns". That is like the Japanese description "unicorn whale" - Magical animal, maybe some of the magic rubs off on the owner?? [Not so lucky for the whale!] 41 minutes ago, Matsunoki said: does not look like Japanese workmanship to me. Nakago ana.??? Yes pretty rough work, I see similar on some deer antler ones as the core is often very spongy and I presume soft [shouldn't that make it easier to cut straight?] You might notice my 'avatar' is a reinforced antler guard - what is under the silver plate I don't know. I will add this new find to the ones I already have - an odd bunch, I think they are more likely found on country folk weapons or for village elder's rather than samurai? Just had a thought could it be Ainu work? Edited August 12, 2024 by Spartancrest Just a late thought 5 Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted August 12, 2024 Report Posted August 12, 2024 It’s walrus ivory btw. From the International Netsuké Society site 5 1 Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted August 12, 2024 Report Posted August 12, 2024 Here is a narwhal Netsuké for comparison: 4 1 1 Quote
Jake6500 Posted August 12, 2024 Report Posted August 12, 2024 9 minutes ago, Bugyotsuji said: It’s walrus ivory btw. From the International Netsuké Society site Looking further into it the anatomy of the two appears to be similar but the thickness of the inner dentine layer and general shape does some to indicate Walrus tusk. Would this presumably mean that we could expect the tsuba to come from Hokkaido or Sakhalin, based on the natural habitats of these animals? 2 Quote
Spartancrest Posted August 12, 2024 Author Report Posted August 12, 2024 6 minutes ago, Bugyotsuji said: It’s walrus ivory btw. See you should never believe the advertising! Makes a lot more sense with the oval profile. 1 1 Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted August 12, 2024 Report Posted August 12, 2024 Something we have often discussed in the Netsuke world. The large central secondary dentine section of walrus has this 'crushed ice' look, often recognizable, but disguised in some way by artisans working with walrus Netsuke. Examples available! 3 1 Quote
Tensho Posted August 12, 2024 Report Posted August 12, 2024 As was said, walrus ivory that has been filed in a scalloped shape. Here's 2 tusk pieces of Narwhal 2 1 Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted August 12, 2024 Report Posted August 12, 2024 Of course other marine ivories were often carved to look like narwhal as it was considered a valuable material. Here is a walrus ivory Netsuké. And the ‘crushed ice’ secret is in the design! 3 Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted August 12, 2024 Report Posted August 12, 2024 I can imagine the OP’s funky tsuba used on a funky ivory-like Tantō koshirae. Whether for the tourist trade, or as a practical Ainu tool I would not know. And whether that slice of tusk was made into a tsuba immediately, or repurposed at a much later date, I would hesitate to judge. 1 Quote
Lewis B Posted August 12, 2024 Report Posted August 12, 2024 Interesting that the fissures were drilled to prevent them extending further into the material. I sincerely hope noone thought to make oosik tsuba. 2 1 Quote
Spartancrest Posted August 13, 2024 Author Report Posted August 13, 2024 14 hours ago, Lewis B said: oosik I guess that where the word "boner" came from 1 Quote
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