Tsuba school opinion requested

[Gunome]

Hello,

 

This small iron tsuba (6,5cm) is not signed but appear to be late edo.

From your point of view, to which school it belong to ?

 

Thanks

[Matsunoki]

Sebastien…..can’t help re school but beautiful tsuba. I saw the cuckoo quickly but took a minute to spot the moon. Lovely interpretation of that subject. Interesting that the raised design encroaches onto the seppadai. Did it need a modified seppa? It has obviously been mounted. 
love it

Colin

[Franco D]

Venturing a guess and that's all it is so it could be completely wrong, however, Toryusai comes to mind.

Thanks for sharing.

 

Kind Regards,

[Gunome]

Hello

 

Thanks for the replies.

A senior collector suggested Hamano or  probably more Tanaka. Son Toryusai seems à Goodyear call too.

 

Th me tree is carve so no need to have a modified seppa. 

 

[ROKUJURO]

Sébastien,

What about KAGA SHOAMI school?

[Gunome]

Maybe. I don't know enough this school to have an opinion about it, but I Will do some research on it.

[Ford Hallam]

The tree does echo Hamano treatment of that sort of subject, and the 'misty' nunome is very Tanaka/Toryusai, as it the mimi shape, perhaps even a little late Umetada in there too ( the ones with the plum blossom stamp). On the overall balance I'd lean Tanaka/Toryusai myself. Increasing I feel that if there's no mei it's not 'of a school' at all but merely 'in the style of' or 'showing the influence of'.

 

A similar example here, attributed Tanaka Toryusai by the NBTHK.

[Gunome]

Many thanks Ford for your post and the link.

The workmanship of the tsuba in the link is very close of mine !

Thanks for the reference.

[paul tsubadotinfo]

Thank you Ford for the mentioning!

 

yes indeed this would be Toryusai and it is quite a nice piece! Typical for toryusai school Tsuba it has this flat Nanban style Kin Zogan. It is said that Tanaka Kiyotoshi the founder of the school was the son of a Nanban Tsuba artist which is why he used this technique a lot.

[Gunome]

Thanks Paul for these additionnal informations

[DoTanuki yokai]

On 10/26/2023 at 2:49 PM, Matsunoki said:

Interesting that the raised design encroaches onto the seppadai. Did it need a modified seppa? It has obviously been mounted. 
love it

Colin

The circled gold inlay seems to be pressed flat by the seppa, I think  it is indeed a little higher but the tree is on the same level. I tried to show with my lazy smartphone skills how i think it looks in the crosssection. 

Edit: it is very lazy and the drawings are not very accurate especially the lower red line where the right side of the groove should be more like 90degrees 

 

[Gunome]

Hello,

 

Indeed, as you drawn on the photo, the edge of the trunk is hollow engraved.

The circled gold inlay is flat, but not sure it is due to a seppa.

I enclose a photo, but it is hard to take a good one to show the relief.