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Thanks Paul for sharing your experience. Wise words in regards nihonto and other things also to not easily dismiss out of preformed ideas or prejudice I think! I guess smiths like the Sukesadas that made kazuuchimono also made custom order work for the Daimyos so it was not like they lacked skill!

 

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Words to remember. Thanks Paul. I remember a write-up about how senior Japanese experts were amazed when they actually took a close look at some of the Gendaito made during the war. I think that was the start of a new perception.
By the same token, it is also a reminder that age does not equal quality. Many are fixated by Koto. They will pass up a stunning Gendaito or Shinshinto in favour of a kazu uchimono made in the 1500's, because they think that old swords are just better.
Thanks for a good read, as always.

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Paul, great and enlightened thoughts indeed.

I still enjoy taking the Kiyomitsu katana, that I bought from you, and studying it.

 

Warm Regards,

Jesse

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@paulb

Paul as a fellow member of the society am i able to loan you a sword for study ? As im struggling myself to determine its nature. 

 

Thanks 

Regards 

Paz

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On 7/12/2023 at 8:25 PM, paulb said:

crudely forged with bad shape

 

G'day Paul,

You and others on this forum in the past have mentioned blades having a bad shape. I assume this refers to aesthetics and has nothing to do with the practical performance of the blade. As you have said you like early koto blades does this mean you prefer the blade shapes that were common in this time period? What is a bad shape and what is a good shape? I am not trying to take the piss or anything, but am simply trying to learn. One thing I do know is that what we like is very subjective and changes over time. Below are three examples of Gassan Sadakatsu's blades. How would you describe the shapes of these blades, good, bad or indifferent? I like all three.

Cheers,

Bryce

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Good Morning Bryce,

Just some thoughts/opinions and I am sure others may have alternative ideas. As a non-practitioner of any form of martial arts nothing I say is based on practical experience.

On the basis that "form follows function" we assume that the basic shape of the nihonto developed through the smith's attempts to improve performance. What we see today goes well beyond functionality and as you suggest I think it has a lot to do with aesthetics and to a lesser extent personal taste . ( I think a shape can look right and good even if I don't particularly like the blade).

So a good shape results from all of the elements within the construction working together in harmony. Its like a well composed painting or photograph where no specific subject stands out but all come together to create a beautiful whole. In the case of a sword the balance between length, sori and kissaki, if there is a hi does it fit naturally to the shape and add to the overall aesthetic of the blade. Is everything in proportion.

is  it in harmony. Of course there cant help but be an element of subjectivity in assessing this.DSC_0002.thumb.JPG.7d2eb545555f5332972656c8caf5b2dc.JPG

 

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Regarding the gassan images I don't think any of them have a bad shape and all look to be good. If I was being picky (which I am) I like the last one the least. I think the hi, especially the short soe-hi look a little fussy and clumsy and the sori is a little too deep. As said I'm being picky and that has much more to do with personal preference than pure aesthetics.

 

 

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