Ray Singer Posted April 18, 2020 Report Posted April 18, 2020 A bit different from swordsmiths' mei, would anyone be able to help with readings for some of these netsuke artist names? Much appreciated, Ray Quote
Ray Singer Posted April 18, 2020 Author Report Posted April 18, 2020 No. 8 appears to be Hogyoku. Quote
Tanto54 Posted April 18, 2020 Report Posted April 18, 2020 Dear Ray, As mentioned in my PM, I didn't expect to find them, but I looked in Lazarnick and Meinhertzhagen and couldn't find any matching signatures. Nevertheless, here's how I would read them: 1. MitsuTama/Gyoku or Kogyoku 2. Bo[?]taroichi 3. Mizuyama/Suizan 4.Narita/Nariyoshi 5. Gengyoku 6. Nanryu? 7. Yoshi/Kichi? 8. Hogyoku 9. Masakatsu/tadakatsu/seisho Quote
SteveM Posted April 18, 2020 Report Posted April 18, 2020 A lot of question marks for me, too. My attempts 1. 光玉 Kōgyoku 2. 不?太郎 or 不太郎一 Fu(?) taro. Could also be -taroichi, but I couldn't tell if that last bit was a border or an "ichi". 3. ?山 - I couldn't tell if the first one was 水, 氷, or 杉, or something completely different. 4. 成田 Narita 5. 法玉 Hōgyoku 6. 南柳 Nanryū 7. 吉? Yoshi-something 8. 法玉 Hōgyoku 9. 五勝 Gokatsu I'm not 100% sure of the 五. Considering 玉 is a popular kanji in these names, I am tempted to say 玉 is a possibility as well. However it is missing the loop in the center, which seems to be a hallmark of 玉 in grass script. 正 , as George suggests, is a distant candidate, but I felt the one on the netsuke was a step too far away from 正 in grass script. Anyway, I'm reasonably confident in 1, 4, 5, 6, 8, and 9 (with some reservation). The rest, not so confident. Quote
Ray Singer Posted April 19, 2020 Author Report Posted April 19, 2020 I just received your message George. Really, thanks so much to you and Steve for taking the time to look at these. Kind regards, Ray PS. Circling back on #7 I was feeling that it might be 吉田 (Yoshida). But, just a guess on my part... 1 Quote
Guido Posted April 19, 2020 Report Posted April 19, 2020 From what I can see in the photos, those don‘t appear to me to be authentic netsuke - which might explain why the signatures are not recorded. 2 Quote
PietroParis Posted April 19, 2020 Report Posted April 19, 2020 Indeed, from below they look like Chinese-made tourist trinkets, you might show a group photo from above to remove any doubt. The one in the third picture might read 松山 Matsuyama/Shozan, which is a typical "Hong Kong" signature. The round inlay in the seventh picture is another typical giveaway. Anyway, the signatures on such NLO (netsuke-like objects) are often just meaningless squiggles. 1 Quote
Ray Singer Posted April 19, 2020 Author Report Posted April 19, 2020 I will clarify that these are not mine, just helping out a friend with his father's collection. Again though, I appreciate the time and all the additional feedback above. I will relay this information to the owner. Kind regards, Ray 2 Quote
tcollinswest Posted October 4, 2022 Report Posted October 4, 2022 Does anyone know what this means? Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted October 4, 2022 Report Posted October 4, 2022 My guess is a Western or possibly Chinese (not a traditional Japanese) attempt to add cachet to a damaged slice of ivory tusk, but it would not be classed as a Netsuké. Quote
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