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The first is purporting to be a Kanabo blade (I believe) and may not be dated. While I do not see that exact mei, an authentic Kanabo Kasatsugu would be Muromachi.

 

https://nihontoclub.com/view/smiths/meisearch?type=All&mei_op=contains&mei=%E6%94%BF%E6%AC%A1

 

Gordon Robson is generally the person I would think to ask about Kanabo.

 

https://www.nihonto.com/kanabo-masatsugu-%E9%87%91%E6%88%BF%E6%94%BF%E6%AC%A1/

 

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