vajo Posted January 12, 2017 Report Posted January 12, 2017 Hello i've got these 3 Tsuba. Could you give me some oppinions about if i'm right with my appraisal? First one i read: signed "Masanobu" I think mid Edo period. Motif Gama Sennin. Wakizashi size tsuba Second one i think: signed: "Toshi (to) Nami or Thoshitomo" i cant read the last kanji. Motif: I didn't know. Someone with unusual cloth, dark colored skin, playing a medieval flute. Katana size tsuba Third one: signed: Mumei I think Mito School. Motif: Old man with child filtering milk? Wakizashi size tsuba I would be happy about ideas on these three pieces. Chris Quote
ROKUJURO Posted January 12, 2017 Report Posted January 12, 2017 Chris,second one: I would not believe in the MEI as it looks as if it was done at a later date after the latest TAGANE marks. The scene might be a hunter with a dog, imitating birdcalls or something similar (the hunter, not the dog). Quote
vajo Posted January 12, 2017 Author Report Posted January 12, 2017 Hello Jean, could you explain what you mean? I took a (maybe) better picture of the mei. The flute looks like similar to that one. I didn't found a medieval Japanese flute like this. Quote
christianmalterre Posted January 12, 2017 Report Posted January 12, 2017 they all 3 do look like comming from same tradition or even school ???....so far... shure with mid Edo? (warum sind die so "speckig" ?....mit Hartwachs eingeölt ????) sorry- can not be of help here to you....not my kind of stuff at all- as you know) Christian Quote
vajo Posted January 12, 2017 Author Report Posted January 12, 2017 No with Choij oil because they where rather dirty with dust. (Ne mit Choi weil sie ziemlich schmutzig waren. Staubverkrustet. 40 Jahre lang in ne Vitrine gelegen. Des Speckige geht wieder weg ) Quote
christianmalterre Posted January 12, 2017 Report Posted January 12, 2017 O.K.....then it´s o.k....i already did sweat.... good luck into your´s research! ! Christian 1 Quote
ROKUJURO Posted January 12, 2017 Report Posted January 12, 2017 Chris,the picture you are showing is the "Rattenkönig von Hameln" who is not typical Japanese, nor is the flute. On the TSUBA the place for the signature on the SEPPA-DAI is partly taken by the TAGANE. An original MEI (can only guess TOSHI TOSHI) would have been only partly visible, I think. 1 Quote
vajo Posted January 12, 2017 Author Report Posted January 12, 2017 Hello Jean, i know that it is the Rattenfänger von Hameln. I didn't meant the Rattenfänger but the Flute. The Flute is not typical Japanese in my opinion. Maybe the "Hunter" is a portuguese? Quote
vajo Posted January 12, 2017 Author Report Posted January 12, 2017 I found now a Kozuka in the Carlo Monzino Collection Book. On site 80, lot 342. "Foreigner standing blowing a flageolet while a dog walks at his side,.." Looks like a similar motif. 1 Quote
vajo Posted January 14, 2017 Author Report Posted January 14, 2017 Found Netsuke with the same theme. The dutch in Japan. I found a text that 1782 80 javanese are slaved from the dutch as sailors on their ships. They where ongoing to Japan. Maybe the foreigner is a javanese (dark skin,...) I search further. It's thriling Quote
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