Ray Singer Posted August 7, 2015 Report Posted August 7, 2015 Would anyone be able to confirm if this the same Yoshikage that was for sale on Aoi-art two years ago? If so it is quite a deal, now being $10,850 at the current exchange. The sword on Aoi was I believe 1,600,000 yen at the time. http://www.sanmei.com/contents/media/O99535_W5086_PUP_E.html Regards, Ray Quote
b.hennick Posted August 7, 2015 Report Posted August 7, 2015 Hi Ray: Are you making the point that the blade was bought for 1.6 M yen and then was put through juyo shinsa. If currently for sale for less than $11k it is a super buy. 1 Quote
Jimmy R Posted August 7, 2015 Report Posted August 7, 2015 It says that it is the 31st nihonto to recieve Juyo in 1973 Jim Quote
Ray Singer Posted August 8, 2015 Author Report Posted August 8, 2015 Hi Barry, the sword I recall was already Juyo. Given the exchange at the time I believe it around $16-17k, already a good deal I felt at that time. At the current exchange it's really quite amazing. I believe it is the same sword but I unfortunately did not save the photos. Best regards, Ray Quote
DirkO Posted August 8, 2015 Report Posted August 8, 2015 Would it be able to get Juyo nowadays? Doubtful. Was it repolished after it got Juyo in the 70's? Likely. If a Juyo is at this price, one has to tread very carefully. I've seen Juyo that changed quite a bit after a new polish and not always in a favorable way. Not saying this is the case here, but when a deal seems too good to believe... Quote
leo Posted August 8, 2015 Report Posted August 8, 2015 Most probably this is a shortened nagamaki, converted much later into a wakizashi. Hence the very reasonable price. Too much sori for a shortened tachi. Most Yoshikage tachi I have seen have no nagamaki naoshi- kissaki or a part hi on the shinogi. An o-suriage tachi attributed to Bizen-Soden Yoshikage in very good condition would cost not under 5-6 M. Yen nowadays. Regardless of the price I personally would not buy it because it was not made as a wakizashi. Dirk, this will most probably get a Juyo paper today. I already sent blades to Japan for papers in 1970 and from my experience it is much easier today to get one. Today it mainly needs a TH paper, good condition, made in Nambokucho or earlier, money and patience. There are quite a few of these mediocre Juyo blades on the market attributed to some school. Best, Martin Quote
Marius Posted August 8, 2015 Report Posted August 8, 2015 Regardless of the price I personally would not buy it because it was not made as a wakizashi. But you would buy an o-suriage tachi (in other words, a katana) which was not made as a katana. Hm... Quote
kazarena Posted August 8, 2015 Report Posted August 8, 2015 Ray, I was only able to find 4 Juyo swords by Yoshikage sold through Aoi in my records in the recent years: wakizashi, around Aug 2011: 23th Juyo at 2.5m yen katana, around Nov 2011: 47th Juyo at 3m yen naginata naoshi, around May 2014: 13th Juyo at 3m yen naginata naoshi, around Jan 2015: 16th Juyo at 2.6m yen All are different swords from the one in your link. Regards, Stan Quote
Ray Singer Posted August 8, 2015 Author Report Posted August 8, 2015 Thank you for providing the confirmation Stan. This shows that I am thinking of a sword by a different smith. Best regards, Ray Quote
Ray Singer Posted August 8, 2015 Author Report Posted August 8, 2015 Sorry for the confusion, I should have simply checked the Archives from the beginning. I misremembered the sword in question and in fact it was a So-den Bizen Kanenaga rather than a Yoshikage. The Kanenaga is below. https://web.archive.org/web/20101213012623/http://aoi-art.com/sword/sale/10229.html Thanks, Ray Quote
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