Thekirsh Posted September 13, 2014 Report Posted September 13, 2014 Hi, I have just been offered this blade and would appreciate any help with the sayagaki . Date ooks like 2nd year Keicho, but the first three characters have me stumped, the fourth is a possible "michi". Could the first three be a town inscription? Thanks Simon K Quote
k morita Posted September 13, 2014 Report Posted September 13, 2014 Hi, Not Keicho period. The sayakaki says Kiyondo blade. Owner was Honma Masako/Shinko,she and Mr.Junji Honma are relatives. She is still alive. The tang looks older than Keio period.(?) .... Quote
Thekirsh Posted September 13, 2014 Author Report Posted September 13, 2014 Thank you very much Morita san, Yes,the blade is much older than Keicho. I have added a few more photos. I cannot find any reference to an early Kiyondo? Thanks Simon K Quote
k morita Posted September 13, 2014 Report Posted September 13, 2014 I say again not Keicho period but Keio period on the sayagaki. The blade signature says Gisuke/Yoshisuke. So,the sword signature(mei) and the Sayagaki not match each other. Quote
Thekirsh Posted September 13, 2014 Author Report Posted September 13, 2014 Ahh...now I understand, thank you again. Simon K Quote
k morita Posted September 13, 2014 Report Posted September 13, 2014 Hi, Kiyondo was a pupil of Kiyomaro and is a famous smith. Does the blade length match? Quote
Thekirsh Posted September 13, 2014 Author Report Posted September 13, 2014 Hi, Sadly, no it does not match. Blade haa a nagasa of 45.5cm. I am looking at Suruga Yoshisuke, maybe late Muromachi 1467-1572 Simon K Quote
Toryu2020 Posted September 13, 2014 Report Posted September 13, 2014 Simon - Someone has either intentionally or mistakenly put an older blade in this saya. A nice sayagaki but you will need to evaluate the blade on it's own. More pics of the blade may help us help you. -t Quote
Thekirsh Posted September 13, 2014 Author Report Posted September 13, 2014 Thanks Thomas, Here are the only other photos the seller sent. Seems to have rough hada in places. Simon K Quote
Jean Posted September 13, 2014 Report Posted September 13, 2014 I'll be wary about Yoshisuke. Generally, only the first generation was referred as Gisuke. They worked (Shimada smiths) in a mix of Mino/SengoSoshu style. http://www.touken.or.jp/english/nihon_koto_shi/(44)%20No.599.htm Quote
Thekirsh Posted September 13, 2014 Author Report Posted September 13, 2014 Thank you Jean, I think I will give it a miss. Simon K Quote
Toryu2020 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Posted September 16, 2014 Not Yoshisuke I'm thinking or if it is maybe it has been re-tempered too dull looking for Shimada. mho -t Quote
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