Medina San1 Posted January 29, 2014 Report Posted January 29, 2014 Here is a photo of a papered Kanenobu Sword Quote
zentsuji2 Posted February 13, 2014 Report Posted February 13, 2014 Lovely gendaito, was the dragon horimono added or requested by the buyer,just a newbie question, i love these carvings and wonder what they would have cost, what date is the sword and is the mei skillfully carved,a gift to or prize etc.Ian bellis Quote
Medina San1 Posted February 13, 2014 Author Report Posted February 13, 2014 Lovely gendaito, was the dragon horimono added or requested by the buyer,just a newbie question, i love these carvings and wonder what they would have cost, what date is the sword and is the mei skillfully carved,a gift to or prize etc.Ian bellis The sword was made by Kanenobu who was also a skillful engraver. The sword is not signed but was submitted to Shinza and was appraised by Fukunaga Suiken, Shibata Mitsuo and John M Yumto to Kanenobu. Dated Showa. Quote
cabowen Posted February 13, 2014 Report Posted February 13, 2014 When and where was the shinsa done? Any more photos of the blade? Quote
Medina San1 Posted February 13, 2014 Author Report Posted February 13, 2014 When and where was the shinsa done? Any more photos of the blade? The Shinza was held at the University of New Mexico in 1983. I have been reading up on how to take photos of Swords. Once I get the hang of it I will post some better pictures. Quote
zentsuji2 Posted March 4, 2014 Report Posted March 4, 2014 Sorry medina san,i was not impuning the work,i love kanenobus work,however the hamon is like none of his i havw encountered,and i myself have trouble with photography,but the hamon seems to be a little showato looking,its probably the pictures. Have a look on eds site yakiba swords,there is a lovely kanenobu i was attempting to buy,the hamon is full of activity,and i find it unlikely he would not have signed his work. I am at the mercy of learning at the moment,and want you to be on guard at what you are buying,shinsa can be dubious,show it to someone with experience or post it on here,Its just strange that kanenobu would carve this horimono on an unsigned blade,in ww2 such a thing would be considered a luxury as the work was time consuming. I think ww2 swords with horomono would be for foreign diplomats,prizes for bravery high ranking officers,special units ,one was made for adolf hitler by shigemasa. I am probably wrong and hope you have a ww2 kanenobu,with his horimono carving ,but be sure, post the papers etc as you may have a lesser sword with later horimono added. No offence to the learned shinsa team named i am a newbie,but dont want a fellow collector to be duped.I hope i am made to eat my words as the carving is nicely done,and why have a horimono put on a an unsigned blade unless it showed nice workmanship. All the best medina san,i am looking out for your interest,and would like to know myself,about shinsa. Best regards ,Ian Bellis Quote
Marius Posted March 4, 2014 Report Posted March 4, 2014 Dan, Sorry to say this, and I sincerely hope that I am utterly wrong, but from what I can see in your (blurred) pictures, this does not seem a top-notch horimono. As said, the pics are out of focus, so I just may be paranoid. Quote
Medina San1 Posted March 5, 2014 Author Report Posted March 5, 2014 Hello to all I have added a couple of new photos. Dan Quote
Jiro49 Posted March 5, 2014 Report Posted March 5, 2014 A copy of a paper from the same shinsa. Quote
hxv Posted March 5, 2014 Report Posted March 5, 2014 That's just like saying a photon can be a particle AND a wave at the same time....We deem this tanto "authentic" and "FAKE" at the same time. Hoanh Quote
Jacques Posted March 5, 2014 Report Posted March 5, 2014 Hi, If i'm not wrong, paper says Muramasa (fake). Quote
John A Stuart Posted March 5, 2014 Report Posted March 5, 2014 Obviously this was an early American shinsa and outside of normal procedures. They say "Fake" for the signature rather than 'gimei' and then give an attribution "Ujifusa". So not a fake sword and at least the owner is given some satisfaction as to what he has actually. I remember Texas as being a hotbed once upon a time for Nihonto. John Quote
Marius Posted March 5, 2014 Report Posted March 5, 2014 Dan, Thanks for the additional pics. Horimono is not the highest quality, sorry. Not bad, but not too good, either. Quote
Medina San1 Posted March 6, 2014 Author Report Posted March 6, 2014 Dan, Thanks for the additional pics. Horimono is not the highest quality, sorry. Not bad, but not too good, either. That's O.K. this was my first papered sword I've had it for about 17 years. I'm learning and getting at better at collecting. Dan Quote
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