Yari mei

[Ken-Hawaii]

My apologies for the lousy resolution, but I could really use some help with this mei translation. It looks like Osafune ??? Kanesugu.

 

 

Thanks!

 

Ken

[Gabriel L]

Well "ju" ought to be obvious, right? Osafune ju Kanemitsu saku? After "Kane" it gets much harder due to the resolution and glare, but I'd bet it says Kanemitsu saku.

 

[Ken-Hawaii]

Many thanks, Gabriel. I'm sure my somewhat older eyeballs had something to do with the fact that I can't pick out "ju."

 

Aloha!

 

Ken

[Gabriel L]

Many thanks, Gabriel. I'm sure my somewhat older eyeballs had something to do with the fact that I can't pick out "ju."

 

Aloha!

 

Ken

 

I was assuming it was temporary distraction or hunger or a similar act of god, Ken, I know that sort of thing wouldn't normally escape you. :lol:

 

Regards,

—G.

[Ken-Hawaii]

More a similar act of Myer's rum, but I do think that even with my reading glasses, things are getting a tad harder to read....

 

BTW, that mei is from a trident yari that I just bought. Totally different than any I've seen before:

 

 

I'm looking forward to studying it.

 

Ken

[Bugyotsuji]

Not a yari but a yasu, or mori, Ken!

[SwordGuyJoe]

"I killed a man with a trident."

Brick Tamland

[Ken-Hawaii]

Hi, Piers - glad to see you back on the site.

 

Trying to find anything on "yasu" gets me tons of the expected Yasu Kizu, but nothing on the blade type. Same for "mori." As I'm not familiar with either term, can you point me in the right direction to an English-language link?

 

Thanks!

Ken

[John A Stuart]

Is it not just calld a Sansa 三叉 ? John

[Ken-Hawaii]

Oh, great! Still another term I've never heard of! On-line reference, John? Thanks.

 

Ken

[John A Stuart]

That is just 'trident' or 'three pronged fork'.

You find Toraedento トライデント (n) Trident, in the dictionary, 'Tiger Fork'. John

[Ken-Hawaii]

Kinda' funny, John - I just did a Google search for "Toraedento," & found . . . one hit, yours. So the term is obviously not in common use.

 

Ken

[John A Stuart]

My fault, I spelled it incorrectly. I just wrote what it sounded like to me. It can be found here with subsequent googling. http://www.tanoshiijapanese.com/diction ... ry_id=8025 John

Here they mention Koumukoten as holding a trident 'sansageki'', 三叉戟 , http://www.aisf.or.jp/~jaanus/deta/k/koumokuten.htm

[Ken-Hawaii]

Sounds like that to me, too.

 

Ken

[Bugyotsuji]

A Mori tends to be a single pronged harpoon whereas a Yasu tends to be smaller, perhaps hand-held, having two or three barbed prongs, according to the first paragraph here, although the distinction is not always clear they say:

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%8A%9B

 

Definition from Wiktionary, the free dictionary .... arpione (it); Japanese: (short type for a small fish) 簎 (ja) (yasu), (large type for a large fish) 銛 (ja) (mori).

[John A Stuart]

A different kettle of fish, Piers, eh? I should mention that I think a sansageki may be a socketed type of trident, noting the root geki or hoko refers traditionally to a socketed spear. I think, as of now, toraidento is the best nomenclature. I forgot to say that I wish I had one. They must be fairly rare. John

[Ken-Hawaii]

The overall length is just 29 cm, Piers, with the blade length 20 cm. I'm not sure how large a fish that would harpoon; my speargun blade is a lot longer than that, & I've had some medium-size fish still manage to get away. The whatever-it-is should fit nicely into a pole I have, too, but I don't think I'll take it diving with me. :D

 

Toraidento is the anglicized pronunciation of trident, John, which for some reason didn't occur to me last night.... So sansageki it is, although I'll list it on my log sheet as a yari. Not sure about its rarity, but it will be interesting to study.

 

Ken