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Importing Nihonto through US Customs and Tariff info
klee replied to MEENag's topic in General Nihonto Related Discussion
The import process is fairly streamlined now but yea it was a bit messy in the beginning. AOI uses UPS and they will let you know via email if they need additional info and any import duties once it enters customs -
Yea for sure. I ve looked at works from shinto sukesada here and there and they were definitely not this extreme
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Looks like a good amount of buffing and or polishing compound. It s a shame bc it lookslike it might have an interesting hamon. Good news is that the foundation doesnt look severely compromised and can most likely be brought back to it s proper state of polish. Seen swords in far worse state being restored by a good togishi. But the reality is that it s probably far from being financially worth unless the blade has special meaning to you
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Unfortunately they remove both now but I did download the image Cant post full res due to image aize restriction tho. I believe it went for well north of $100,000.00 USD
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You ll see a lot of Sukesada blades come up. The quality after Eisho ( 1521 ) will be all over the scale. Many with poorly made loose hada. Some decent ones and a few nice Tokubetsu Hozon blades every now and then. The crown jewel of Sukesada blade was actually just on sale at AOI about a month ago. An insane work by the shodai Yosozaemon Sukesada
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Nice blade @anguilla1980 Im a fan of sue bizen kiyomitsu but I do enjoy checking out Sukesadas whenever they come available. I did like that one when it came on AOI. This blade has a particularly defined jigane compared to other ones i ve seen in a while. Almost all swords from the sengoku , even high level zokumei blades will show tierdness in spots but even the core steel on this blade looks well forged for the most part. A very nice sword indeed with a very active hamon and boshi to top. Congratulations on the blade and hope to see more photos
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Is this how Hozon certificates used to be ? Never seen one with oshigata before https://www.aoijapan.com/katana-hizen-hirado-shin-masamitsu-1818/
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Lol yes im definitely biased towards suguha and notare most but for that particular sword the way to togari being so high and pointing towards the tip of the blade just breaks the flow for me personally. Of course it s just personal preference and im sure there s plenty out there who cant stand suguha. I think part of it stems from when I was a kid. I used to have a lot of imitation katanas growing up and whenever I see hamons with a lot of togari it reminds me of those fake hamons lol. Esp some of the mino blades
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I know people have all different taste but gosh that hamon looks dreadful lol i couldnt handle it
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And yes when a koto blade undergoes suriage, a lot of time it is very obvious from a mile away without removing the tsuka. This is my biggest problem when purchasing a late kamakura/nanbokucho blade. Their sugata is greatly altered and many of them just looks strange
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Im not exactly sure of the reason why it was frowned upon. Swords and swordsmithing have always been considered sacred so perhaps the altering of it was considered a bit tabboo. I dont think shinto suriage/osuriage is unattractive most of the time but they certainly stand out and looks obviously altered. We have to also consider that a lot of koto swords were probably suriage in a very short amount of time due to the edict restricting the length of blades during the edo period. Edit: Great article by Mr Sessko as always and basically answers this in his own view which I always trust.
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Hi @Subayai Kitsune Funny you mention this bc I just came accross this on a Japanese nihonto chanel on youtube and they briefly hit this topic. Based on what the translation said, suriage during the koto period was somewhat frowned upon and a lot of effort was put into shaping the nakago to as close to it s original shape when suriage was done. In shinto times however, suriage of old swords was very much the norm and the nakago was simply cut to fit whatever length.
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He can be reached via Robert Benson https://togishi.com/index.html
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yes Woody Hall will do an amazing job with it. He has a very beautiful and unique style thats far better than anything that comes from the dealers in my opinion. It looks like you might only need a shiage togi . You might want to consider a slight kissaki shaping as it looks slightly mishapened but there s really nothing wrong leaving it the way it is. He s the only togishi I ll send my blades to and he has done a number of shiage togi for me. Each blade came back looking like a juyo sword lol
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@NotANinja Time periods specifically for nihonto can be a little confusing at first since they often dont match the historical time periods. The koto/shinto division is one of them but I ve always stuck with 1600. Historicaly , the nanbokucho perio 1336 - 1392 viewed as a period WITHIN the Muromachi period. ( 1392 - 1573 ) This is very important to avoid mixing up bc the Nanbokucho period is a very specific and separate era in terms of Nihonto. In Nihonto , the Muromachi spans from 1392 - 1600 but this is in direct conflict with historical timelines since the Muromachi period techinically ended in 1573 with Nobunaga dissolving the Ashikaga shogunate and doesnt include the Azuchi Momoyama period. It s very easy to be confused at first with all the discrepancies so I would just strictly stick with the established Nihonto timelines.
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Hi @nulldevice Awesome project and I hope you keep at it for a long time ! Just some adjuatments I would consider for the schools I follow. The Hokke school is a little confusing but they are an off shoot of Mihara and came about towards the end of Nanbokucho. Some sources list Sukekuni as the founder and some list Ichijo as the founder. Regardless, I think Ichijo should be added as notable smith for the school as well The Ko-Kongohyoe school had some notable smiths but I think Moritaka and most importantly Reisen Sadamori should be there as he has the highest amount of Juyo work The Kongo Hyoe school should also have a post nanbokucho start date. Hope this helps ! -Kevin
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All that aside, Kai Mihara would be great place to start collecting if you want to focus on Koto ( pre 1600 ) If you love their work, you can delve deeper and expand ur collection to the main Mihara line or explore their other offshoot the Hokke School ( my favorite ) Ko Mihara ( pre 1392 Mihara work ) are very elegant streamlined and generally high quality swords whenever they tend to come on the market. Mihara ( Muromachi ) will carry some of it s Ko predecessors features but will tend to be lower quality . Still very solid swords that can be had for a good price Hokke swords will lose some elegance but their atmosphere is more grand, stout and powerful in my opinion. This is my favorite Mihara branch
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Most certainly not. Tsubas were swaped based on personal taste of the owner so it s been swapped many many times over time. You sometimes find a koshirae with matching tsuba, fuchi, kashira and menuki but that will cost a lot. People find great joy collecting tsubas even nowdays
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Kai Mihara is an off shoot of the Mihara school and the smiths were active during the later muromachi period 1500s not 1300s. The original edo listing is based off the kurashiki papers which should be disregarded. Always go with NBTHK attributions
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It most likely was a repurposed tsuka which happens all the time since the wood , ito ,and samegawa will degrade over time. It is very very rare to find a sword with old custom made fittings. When it was replaced might be next impossible determine. Might have been done recently by a dealer/previous owner or over 100+ years ago. Samegawa issues are also very common in old fittings since they are organic and degrade much faster than other fitting materials
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Thank again @Jussi Ekholm 🙏🙏🙏 And yes @flemming dated this sword to the 1409 Moritaka so you are probably correct on your assumption. I almost passed on this sword bc I was looking for an Ubu katana with the sotoba gata but the inclusion of the school name in the mei felt very unusual so I went for it. I had no idea how rare it was among Kongo Hyoe swords
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Believe it or not it s not a major procedure. I thought the same when I inquired about having one of my sword adjusted and was quoted $300 plus shipping. Im sure it varies case by case but your situation isnt much different than mine
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I agree with @Lewis B. lookslike some slight repair was made but I dont think it s an issue at all. It s a very pretty Mihara blade at a very good price. Their swords tends to have a thin boshi by default so I thought it was a great idea to check it out closely. If you love the blade, you can send it to a polisher at a later time and fix the geometry if it bothers you. The ko shinogi needs to be pulled back slightly to match the width of the mitzukado line. This does not affect the boshi or the overall length
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Hi @Jussi Ekholm this is a pretty amazing and insane piece of work you have here and I cant believe im just coming around to reading it. I wanted to make sure im reading this correctly. I own the sword circled in red and based on the document, this is the ONLY signed katana by Moritaka pre 1450 that you ve come across ??? Seemed kind of insane and cool to me if that is the case Thank you as always - Kevin
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Late Kamakura Tachi (Katana) - Help for verifying descriptions and attribution
klee replied to Longbow1464's topic in Nihonto
Im not good at analyzing small details but that hamon definitely doesnt seem kamakura Senjuin at all
