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I would say given the interesting wrap, tha painted items, possible older blade, during WWII. I would highly suggest removing the tsuka and habaki, for a better eval.

Well done, congratulations!

Ok, my question is how to prove provenance? I am not sure if swords were often kept in a list of owners? How common is it that blades passed downed were documented, except swords like Masmune, Norishige etc...

Thank you @Jussi Ekholm for all of your research! If you have the time, I would love to see Uchigatana Koshirae, to see what they look like from a historical and Juyo aspect? As well as, to compare my koshirae.

Apologizes for trying to post and expand my knowledge, and gather thoughts about Daisho. As it seems the term is somewhat convoluted, thus the conversation preceding this post. Please Franco, do by all means, contribute your thoughts and evidence for the term!

@rematron exactly my intentions and I agree. However, I am happy that this has turned into a fantastic discussion, and some question the term and have done the research, some provided documentation and their thoughts; I am grateful for this!

Thanks @Baba Yaga, I was just to make an edit about the systems changing over eras. I am pretty sure many in WW2 took up the Bushido code, served a master the Emporer, were of military family/class, which to me puts them to me as Samurai; using family/class taxonomically. Or is this over thinking?

Samurai: One who serves, is in the millitary/warrior class. Historically serving, Daimyo, Shogun, Emperor. This is why I also choose a sword from WW2, worn and made for battle, serving the emporer and of military family. Or is that a miconeption of the term Samurai?

Great point, I agree.

Can you iterate selfish delusions?

Fair enough.

So it seems there are different level of Daiso. IMHO 1. Holly Grail: Matching mei and time, matching Koshirae and tosogu. 2. Very rare: Matching mei and date, Kosirare matching, tosogu might not match. 3. Rare: Matching mei and date, Koshirae might not match, tosogu match 4. Higly Uncommon: Matching mei, dates will vary, koshirae might not match, tosogu might not match. I could go a few layers deeper, eluding to Darcy's reference of several different meanings, but what do our members think of creating such a scale/criteria?

Interesting topic as well. To relate, can two swords such as the same attribution of Den and Nengo, be a Daisho?

Well this has certainly turned into a good conversation. With, quotes, actual numbers, historical information, a very good conversation! One more, of many reasons why the NMB, is needed; including its members.

@Stephen I understand, please forigve me, I did not mean put people in the spotlight. Maybe one day, that is how I feel lol.

@Stephen and @SRDRowson, may we also see the blades paired?

I think besides a true matched Daisho, it was common to see not perfect matching sets as a Daisho. However, being collectors and striving for the cream of the crop, this is what collectors think of here and elsewhere. So with historical evidence of non true matching Daisho. Can we accept that there are more than one way to classify a Daisho?

Nice set @Stephen! @Alex A apologizes forgot to answer your question, Bizen Norimitsu, and RJT Nagamitsu.

Thank you for you thoughts. I agree, I think it that would be the choice for each person to make, old and new.

Thank you for your honest thoughts @Alex A. If I had a Koshirae made for the Katana, would it be then a Daisho, or just my Daisho? Thank you, nice swords indeed, If you come to the Orlando, show I would glady give you and others a private viewing. Should I use Daito instead?

For the Kosihrae, the color was hard to send via photo to Japan, on the Katana. Texture is the same on both. I have a few more just need to work on the size. P.S. The gold Habaki was made special to fit the Kosihrae, as the mekugi on the uchigatana is high and I have a thick Tsuba.

Thanks for the link with Darcy's thoughts. As stated there are several definitions, for me this is a Daisho as the uchigatana had to have been worn by a samurai during its long life; made in 1478. The Katana while not worn by samurai of old, it was made during war time for battle use; estimation on date made 1943. Both blades were made during times of war and worn for such. The koshirae are similar, I did not want to build one for the showa blade, already has a good koshirae.

For those of that wish to learn, including myself, what brought you too the inference of different ages... besides thickness , and mei @PNSSHOGUN. Also to be honest I am going to nakgo to kissaki close up for Hada, Gamon, Sughata. Then merger together. Time to google lol.

Hi @PNSSHOGUN thank you. 470 year difference. I sure can, Kosirare was an expnsive build, but we'll worth it; pics coming soon. @Baba Yaga I thought a Daisho is simply long, short sword.

Well after a long time due, blood, sweat, and years, my Daisho is complete. Better pics to come along if you want, Shirasaya, Koshirae, no Habaki, hamon hada, Bohi, Sohi... Never let anyone tell you hardwork does not pay off. Patience as well lol!