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Posted 11 June 2019 - 03:25 PM

I believe in the last picture to be an arsenal assembly number 898 and the third photo is a Seki stamp. I have contacted a couple Sword collectors and sellers and they can not tell me who the signature is.  I have looked for days and am at a total loss.  Can anyone help ?

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#2 Nobody

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Posted 11 June 2019 - 04:27 PM

嶋田義助 作 - Shimada Gisuke/Yoshisuke made


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Posted 11 June 2019 - 08:18 PM

嶋田義助 作 - Shimada Gisuke/Yoshisuke made

I thank you very much. 



#4 Surfson

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Posted 23 June 2019 - 05:08 AM

Not sure how much stock I would put in it though.   Were there any gendai smiths that signed that way?  


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#5 SteveM

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Posted 23 June 2019 - 07:25 AM

Must be this guy (from Jinsoo Kim's site)  

 

義助 (Yoshisuke), real name 島田類助 (Shimada Ruisuke)

 

http://www.jp-sword....i/gendaito.html

 

Note the kanji for "shima" on the sword is a variant of the one shown on Dr. Kim's site. 嶋 vs. 島. I don't think this is significant in this case. I think the swordsmith is deliberately using the variant to recall the Shimada lineage of the past. I think this name with the numbers written on the tang make it clear this is a WW2 sword. 


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#6 Geraint

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Posted 23 June 2019 - 12:27 PM

 

 

I think this name with the numbers written on the tang make it clear this is a WW2 sword. 

 

 

Not to mention the stamp.  :)

 

All the best.


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#7 Surfson

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Posted 23 June 2019 - 05:49 PM

That makes sense Steve, thanks for the leg work.  Just some guy that claimed the lineage.  At least he didn't say he was the last of 43 generations.... Cheers, B


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