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#1 6pakki


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Posted 02 March 2017 - 03:53 PM

Dear all,

I have bought a little sword. The suriage was so roughly done that I just had to make an offer.  :Drool:

Here you have some measurement and my observations:




2 menugi ana, 58 mm apart.

Nagasa 493 mm.

Nagago 125 mm.

Tori-sori 8.4 mm. (before suriage was her saki-sori?)

Motokasane 6.7 mm.

Sakikasane 4.8 mm.

Motohaba 28.2 mm.

Sakihaba 20.6 mm.

1/3 of the blade is like someone had tried to make madoake.

No clear visual about the hada. Hamon is mix of suguha / notare.

Patches of spider rust colour blackish.

Couple nicks in ha and mune.

She might have been a "warhorse" that was cut in battlefield due chiping near habaki.

I suspect that it was cut at least 80mm and quite crudely IMHO.

I like her a lot, she is sturdy little sword.

No idea about period or school, please feel free to comment.

Thank you and sorry about the quality of my photos.



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#2 Ken-Hawaii



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Posted 02 March 2017 - 09:41 PM

I can never understand why anyone would mistreat a blade like that! From the sugata, Juha, you likely have a Shinto-period wakizashi.




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#3 Alex A

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Posted 02 March 2017 - 09:41 PM

The suriage was so roughly done that I just had to make an offer.  :Drool:





I cant work out whether you like the suriage work, or you saw it as a bargaining tool ;-) 

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#4 6pakki


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Posted 02 March 2017 - 10:46 PM

Dear Alex, Ken,
The roughness of the suriage made my imagination fly. I am a helpless romantic and my mind tends to wander. Ok, to be serious, I was interested why this O suriage was done such a way. And why it was not repaired afterwards? Out of lazyness? Or for respect. If this was a warhorse... was the owner too poor to do it as should or was it to remember or honour the fallen owner? See you made me daydream again. Also the lenght made me wonder a bit. Since there are no visible filing markings but after 80-100 mm the suriage is imho quite long. So was this blade maybe a uchigatana to start with? Also the sori would have changed because of this to saki sori. Also i dont get how the motohaba gets to so thin to sakihaba...almost 9 mm. The scale dont add up. I truly think this blade taken a beating of she was something else when she was new.

Come on mates...Dont you just love to speculate...?

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Posted 05 March 2017 - 01:47 PM


you are probably right that there is a fascinating story behind your blade - and behind many others if not most! But speculating is dreaming in this case with really nothing realistic in your hand.

If it were mine, I would be more interested in the blade itself, and I would like to have it polished so it could tell the story of its creation. This might be fascinating as well and closer to reality.

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Posted 06 March 2017 - 08:16 AM

Hi guys!

I sold Mr.,Juha this blade a while back and had it posted on here awhile back. It's a nice little blade with what appears to be a kirikomi on the nakago. The mounts were really nice, but I had to let it go. Funds went into the blade I just posted, and Im happy it went to an enthusiastic collector!
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Posted 09 March 2017 - 06:54 PM

Dear Jean and Lev,

Thank you for the reality check. I shall send her to polish soon (ish).

Before that, I will study her and admire her as she is today.

I still haven't had the time to put her under microscope, but I will.

I was fortune to have this deal made with Lev who is a true gentlemen and a pleasure to make business with.

All the best,


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