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#1 Teimei

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Posted 20 April 2015 - 08:31 PM

Hello guys,

 

some time ago i came across this term and wondered about the meaning.

I think the term loyalist blade describes a certain type of blade in terms of the dimensions (heavy kasane, slightly or even significantly longer than standard) and it had to be produced in a quite narrow time period (shin-shinto period,1860´s).

 

 

But i could not really find any further explanation, for example which group started to wear them first (Sonno-joi)?

Was it a political statement or just something to annoy the establishment?

 

 

 

This is a katana of my collection. It has a kasane of 9,3mm and a nagasa of 75,3cm. It was forged around the 1860`s and therefore i think that it is quite a standard example of this type.

 

 

Any comments are welcome :)

 

 

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Posted 21 April 2015 - 01:28 AM

Florian

 

Do you have connoisseurs book?

Check page 278 

blades with little sori are called "Kinnoto" imperialist / royalists/ maybe loyalist?


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Posted 21 April 2015 - 07:12 AM

Hi Florian,

from Markus Shin Shinto shi:

https://books.google...o blade&f=false

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Posted 21 April 2015 - 08:53 AM

Hi Stephen and Peter,

 

thank you for your comments :thumbsup:. I do have both books  :laughing: and i should read them more often it seems.

 

I have to check the connoisseurs book, but the Information in the shin-shinto shi are quite scarce.

I know that these blade had been worn by Samurai of the Satsuma, Tosa and Choshu-han. But who else wore them? Was it dangerous to wear them in certain areas (edo) ? Is there any further literature about it?

It would be nice if members with kinno-to would post them :Drool:.

 

 

 

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Posted 21 April 2015 - 08:16 PM

Florian

 

Do you have connoisseurs book?

Check page 278 

blades with little sori are called "Kinnoto" imperialist / royalists/ maybe loyalist?

 

Woops :oops: !?

 

Seems like i lost my connoiseurs book! Could you scan the page for me or send me a PM with the info? :thanks:

 

 

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 05:01 PM

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#8 Teimei

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Posted 23 April 2015 - 08:32 PM

 

Hi Peter,

 

 

Thank you so much! :thumbsup: :bowdown:

 

 

 

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