docliss Posted November 17, 2011 Report Posted November 17, 2011 I am currently doing some research on the tsuba of Okawa Teikan (O. Sadamasa or Sadamoto) 大川貞幹 – H 09521.0. If any members own any such work I should be most grateful for any details, provenance and images that they could provide me with for inclusion in my manuscript. With thanks, John L. Quote
christianmalterre Posted November 17, 2011 Report Posted November 17, 2011 Dear John, could you please go an bit more in detail? (H-alone does not fitt here with mine books..) To which group do they belong? Lineage/Branch/Time of work/Style of work.... I´ll have an look-but first should need some more details... Christian Quote
docliss Posted November 17, 2011 Author Report Posted November 17, 2011 Dear Christian, thank you for your interest. Family name: Okawa Dates: 1828-1898 Lineage: Son of Okawa Gantei (Motosada) School: Mito Sekijoken Haynes’ reference: H 09521.0, p.1895. Regards, John L. Quote
Ford Hallam Posted November 17, 2011 Report Posted November 17, 2011 Hello Dr John you probably already know but there are a few examples of his work in the Boston museum. Excellent images available on their on-line data-base. It's believed he was also responsible for many fine forgeries of older works when his own, contemporary work wasn't selling. The truth of that assertion has not been tested, to my knowledge though, so it may merely be another of those "inventions" we so frequently stumble over. :D regards, Ford Quote
docliss Posted November 17, 2011 Author Report Posted November 17, 2011 Thank you Ford. Yes, I have details, and excellent photographs, of eight Teikan tsuba from The Museum of Fine Arts, Boston. Regards, John L. Quote
christianmalterre Posted November 17, 2011 Report Posted November 17, 2011 Dear John, sorry-but despite one or two which are equally in the Boston-book,i do have nothing... Too young for mine scans and references... Either way-Good Luck! Christian Quote
Ludolf Richter Posted November 17, 2011 Report Posted November 17, 2011 Hi John,here are pics from my database.Ludolf Quote
docliss Posted November 17, 2011 Author Report Posted November 17, 2011 Dear Ludolf Thank you so much for the contribution from your invaluable database. Of the five tsuba that you posted, the third is #11.5379, ex the Weld collection, from the MFA. The second was posted on the NMB on 1 February 2011, and I was unsure whether or not this was soshin – what is your opinion of this? The first, fourth and fifth are new to me; do you have any source, provenance or ownership to give me for these three? With renewed thanks, John L. Quote
Ludolf Richter Posted November 17, 2011 Report Posted November 17, 2011 When I find a Mei-pic in my Books or in other sources with a verified Soshin-Mei I scan the image and add it to my private Tosogu-database without making a note what source I have used.I am sorry.Here an additional example.Ludolf Quote
docliss Posted November 17, 2011 Author Report Posted November 17, 2011 Thank you Ludolf, I understand. I gather, then, that you consider your tsuba number two to be soshin, and would love to know your reason for this decision. Is this a personal judgement of the work and the mei, or is it based upon its publication in a respected source, a provenance or a shinsa result? John L. Quote
Ludolf Richter Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 I cannot remember from what source I took the pic and why I believed the description,that the piece was made by Okawa Teikan.Ludolf PS.Someone should translate the Japanese text for you of the one Tsuba,I have posted. Quote
docliss Posted November 21, 2011 Author Report Posted November 21, 2011 Further to my earlier request, can any kind member please advise me if Masayuki Murata’s 2006 publication of Bakamatsu and Meiji-era tsuba from the collection of the Kuzomizu San’nanzaka Museum in Kyoto, Japan, contains any works by Okawa Teikan? A scan of any such entry would be a very welome bonus to any reply. With thanks, John L. Quote
Ford Hallam Posted November 21, 2011 Report Posted November 21, 2011 Hi Dr John, Ludolf's example No 3 (the sentoku one with sage) is from the Sannenzaka Museum collection as is this one. regards, Ford Quote
Ford Hallam Posted November 21, 2011 Report Posted November 21, 2011 Sorry about the image quality, here's a lighter scan. Quote
docliss Posted November 21, 2011 Author Report Posted November 21, 2011 Dear Ford, once again I am indebted to you - thank you very much. John L. Quote
Ford Hallam Posted November 21, 2011 Report Posted November 21, 2011 You're more than welcome Dr John. Only too happy to help where I can. Quote
b.hennick Posted April 4, 2013 Report Posted April 4, 2013 Also found in Rokusho #28 along with a second tsuba. It is quite impressive when the detail is shown in the magasine. I have been going over the two Rokusho issues on tsuba focussing on the plate rather than the design. We tend to see forest and not trees. The plates on some of the pieces in these two (28 and 34) issues are great. Quote
Soshin Posted April 4, 2013 Report Posted April 4, 2013 Hi Everyone, This topic reminded me about a article that I never gotten around to reading in JSSUS Newsletter Volume 44 No. 2. Thank you. Yours truly, David Stiles Quote
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