DirkO Posted January 5, 2011 Report Posted January 5, 2011 Hi, I translated the smith on this paper as Mishina Kanemitsu. I never heard of him, but apparently it's another name for the sandai Kanemichi. Kanemichi, 3rd generation, 1711, Settsu, Tango (no) Kami Kanemichi 丹後守兼道. He's the adopted son of the nidai. Fujishiro listed him as Mishina Tajima (no) Kami Minamoto Kanemitsu and died in 1732 KANEMITSU MISHINA [HEI 1704 SETTSU] SHINT CHJSAKU He is called Mishina Monday, is the adopted son of nidai Kanemichi, and he died in Kyh Jshichinen (1732). Signature: MISHINA TAJIMA NO KAMI MINAMOTO KANEMITSU The date to me seems 享保 Kyôhô 12 so 1728 (which would fit the description). Can anyone give me more info about what the origami says about the mei ? It's being sold as a Gassan blade strangely enough, although if you look at the hada, you'll see why :-) Quote
DirkO Posted January 5, 2011 Author Report Posted January 5, 2011 Hi Jean, That would be an issue, because Mishina Kanemitsu died in 1732... 宝暦 Hôreki would date this blade to 1763. Quote
Nobody Posted January 5, 2011 Report Posted January 5, 2011 The paper says that the blade is thought to be Mishina Kanemitsu 2nd. Quote
DirkO Posted January 5, 2011 Author Report Posted January 5, 2011 Thanks Moriyama-san ! This would explain Jean's translation of the date (lesson learnt - always trust Jean's judgement!) - is there anything in the nakago description except the mei and the nengo - I think the mei is partially unreadable ? Or any more info regarding this nidai ? Quote
Jacques Posted January 5, 2011 Report Posted January 5, 2011 Hi, Dirk, Jacques and not Jean, i'm far to have the same knowledge. about nidai kanemitsu, i don't have any info about him. Quote
Nobody Posted January 5, 2011 Report Posted January 5, 2011 Some other descriptions; Kitae: Mokume, Ayasugi-like hada Hamon: Gunome Boshi: Komaru Yasuri: Sujikai Quote
DirkO Posted January 5, 2011 Author Report Posted January 5, 2011 Domo arrigato gozaemasu ! I will have a look this evening in my books to see if I can find something about this elusive smith. Did the origami actually say that it is "thought to be" the nidai ? So the shinsapanel weren't sure either ? Quote
DirkO Posted January 5, 2011 Author Report Posted January 5, 2011 found this in Hawleys : KAN 1489 - Settsu - 1716 - Kanemichi school - rated 15 - 1st gen Mishina Tajima no Kami Fujiwara Kanemitsu KAN 1490 - Settsu - 1748 - rated 15 - 2nd gen Tajima no Kami Kanemitsu Quote
cabowen Posted January 5, 2011 Report Posted January 5, 2011 The kanteisho notes that the mei is illegible-that is what the O O O O 's mean under Mishina on the far right....In the notes section,on the far left, it says "nidai mishina kanemitsu, I think". They are guessing the maker due to the illegibility of the mei.... Quote
DirkO Posted January 5, 2011 Author Report Posted January 5, 2011 Thx Chris, The nakago is indeed in bad shape, and the date would explain their educated guess. There's not so many candidates off course for a Kanemitsu from the Mishina-den. It would be somewhat different with Yoshimichi or Kanemichi Quote
Mark Green Posted January 5, 2011 Report Posted January 5, 2011 Great looking sword, Dirk! I for one, would love to see a few more pics. Ayasugi-like? Sure looks that way to me. Mark G Quote
DirkO Posted January 6, 2011 Author Report Posted January 6, 2011 Hi Mark, Sure, here's the seller's site. He's a bit unrealistic in his prices and descriptions, but this particular blade drew my attention, because he was selling it as a Gassan and I immediately recognized san-pin (Mishina) on the NTHK paper. Another thing which I thought to be peculiar is the 6-barrel teppo he has (only 35.000 AUD !) http://www.cmmilitaryantiques.com/gallery.php?arid=1745 Quote
Jacques Posted January 6, 2011 Report Posted January 6, 2011 Hi, Largely too much expensive IMO. Quote
takakage Posted May 9, 2013 Report Posted May 9, 2013 Hi, Only one oshigata in the shinto shokan. Quote
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