jason_mazzy Posted September 13, 2010 Report Posted September 13, 2010 I aquired this kozuka with a koshirae that was badlymucked. Under the muck and old varnish I found a gold foiled, shakudo kozuka with a gold mythical creature menuki on it. gold and shakudo fuchi, and shakudo with inlay mythical creature menuki. unfortunately the menuki were laquered, and can think of no way to remove this varnish without removing the gold and patina. On the kozuka, the blade has a type of hi, and it is signed in the hi. The blade is very well made, and I am curious what this signature is. Thank you for your time. Quote
k morita Posted September 13, 2010 Report Posted September 13, 2010 Hi, The mei is " Monju Shiro Kanemori ",文殊四郎包守. Quote
jason_mazzy Posted September 13, 2010 Author Report Posted September 13, 2010 Hi, The mei is " Monju Shiro Kanemori ",文殊四郎包守. I see the similarities. very nice thank you. How come they never look the way the characters are typed? I would have never gotten that many characters, maybe just 3 of them. Quote
jason_mazzy Posted September 13, 2010 Author Report Posted September 13, 2010 包守Kanemori ID KAN158 Province Yamato Era Bunei (1264-1275) School Senjuin Source Rating Reference/Page Hawley 25 KAN158 Kanemori (2nd gen) ID KAN153 Province Bizen Start Era Katei (1235-1238) End Era Kencho (1249-1256) School Fukuoka Ichimonji Teacher Kanemori Lineage Image / Interactive Source Rating Reference/Page Hawley 80 KAN153 or 包守Kanemori ID KAN162 Province Yamato Era Shoō (1288-1293) School Hirokane 文珠四郎藤原包守 monju shiro fujiwara kanemori These are only 3 I have found that signed this way. both hawleys rated. both are very early, meaning this would be 700+ years old. I wonder which it is? Quote
jason_mazzy Posted September 14, 2010 Author Report Posted September 14, 2010 If any one has any history or opinion on this I would be very grateful Quote
cabowen Posted September 14, 2010 Report Posted September 14, 2010 they weren't making kogatana in the Kamakura period....By the way, "kozuka" is the handle... Quote
jason_mazzy Posted September 14, 2010 Author Report Posted September 14, 2010 yes I understand kozuka is the handle, but I have only seen them refered to kogatana when no handle is present. perhaps just bad luck I always seen them single. I went with kozuka as I have seen many sites sell the kozuka with the blade (kogatana). Funny you mentioned it, as I had kogatana but changed it because of the afore mentioned and because of the story of me actually finding a kozuka in the story description. All that aside, where do I look then for an age apropriate smith. I had found 1 kogatana, that was referenced to this period ( If I was not mistaken ), so it seemed feasible. Quote
jason_mazzy Posted September 14, 2010 Author Report Posted September 14, 2010 Hi, The mei is " Monju Shiro Kanemori ",文殊四郎包守. the 3rd and 4th kanji in the mei are the hardest for me to see the resemblance Kanemori Submitted by kazarena on Mon, 2007-05-14 20:13 包守Kanemori ID KAN162 Province Yamato Era Shoō (1288-1293) School Hirokane Lineage Image / Interactive Source Rating Reference/Page Hawley 15 KAN162 Toko Taikan ¥2M 64 Fujishiro Chu-jo saku http://nihontoclub.com/smiths/KAN162 has this but still too early according to C bowen. Warning! This record hasn't been verified yet. Signatures: 和州南都住藤原包守 washu nanto ju fujiwara kanemori 文珠四郎藤原包守 monju shiro fujiwara kanemori 1st gen., TK64, masame, suguha, gunome Quote
Mark Green Posted September 14, 2010 Report Posted September 14, 2010 Hi Jason, You see many Kogatana with fanciful signatures! It seems that 80% of them are signed by some no-kami from the shinto period. I feel there is no telling how many true signatures there are on these. They were made for cutting your apple. I doubt that many of them were signed in period. I would think most of the signatures were done in late Edo, to sell them as something special to people that didn't know any better. Mark G I love the bo-hi cut in yours as well. That just cracks me up. I'm sure it helped in it's balance. :lol: Quote
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