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An authentic antique Japanese sword, with a fake inscription for Inoue Shinkai. If the sword came from an online auction from a dealer in Japan with no papers, unfortunately this is a scenario that often results in purchasing a sword with some prohibitive reason that it is not received kanteisho (authentication papers). 

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It is a type of sword produced during WWII which has some degree of mass production. It is not fully traditionally made. In this case, one difference is that the hamon appears to be have been produced by quenching in oil.

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2 minutes ago, Dainius said:

Thanks for the answers, why do you say "non-traditionally made", what do you mean?

 

Its a wartime (WW2) blade and has a "seki stamp" which is a stamp on the tang of blades that identify they aren't traditionally made.

 

Non-traditionally made typically means they aren't made from tamahagane and they aren't quenched in water (usually oil quenched hamon). There are more nuances beyond this but these are the 2 biggest factors. 

 

So if you want a war-time sword, this will fit your objectives. If you wanted a handmade, traditionally made blade made from tamahagane and with a water-quenched hamon, you'll have to look elsewhere. 

 

Since you're asking about 2 very different blades in your 2 photos, it might be best to first ask, what are you looking for? 

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10 minutes ago, nulldevice said:

 

Its a wartime (WW2) blade and has a "seki stamp" which is a stamp on the tang of blades that identify they aren't traditionally made.

 

Non-traditionally made typically means they aren't made from tamahagane and they aren't quenched in water (usually oil quenched hamon). There are more nuances beyond this but these are the 2 biggest factors. 

 

So if you want a war-time sword, this will fit your objectives. If you wanted a handmade, traditionally made blade made from tamahagane and with a water-quenched hamon, you'll have to look elsewhere. 

 

Since you're asking about 2 very different blades in your 2 photos, it might be best to first ask, what are you looking for? 

What can you say about the first sword, what period is it from? I already know that the signature is fake.

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