Looking for translation help

[Krzysio]

hello 

 

just join this forum as I am a newbie to Japanese swords. Buy my first sword not too long ago and now I find my self in need to expend my collection.

Found someone selling this sword. They say its made by Okada Yoshiie Seki. But i cant find the maker from my search.

Any help will be very appreciated.

 

 

 

 

[Ray Singer]

Okada Kanesada saku 

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=Okada+Kanesada+site%3Awww.militaria.co.za&oq=Okada+Kanesada+site%3Awww.militaria.co.za+&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRiPAjIHCAIQIRiPAjIHCAMQIRiPAtIBCTEwMTI0ajBqN6gCFLACAfEFhppvZqzPTbLxBYaab2asz02y&client=ms-android-google&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

[Krzysio]

Thank you Ray

 

Is this sword considered to be good addition to modest collection?

There is no arsenal stamp on this sword.

Edited October 20, 2025 by Krzysio
more info

[mecox]

Krzysio, need to  see more of the blade and nakago (tang).  Looks like saya has been  repainted.  But looks a nice sword to start.  Here is the smith:

兼定 Kanesada (岡田 定男 Okada Sadao)
Born: Meiji 38 (1905) Sept 9; Reg Showa 14 (1939) Oct 8. Died September 1, 1966, age 61.
1937: Bugi-gun, Seki-machi, Otsu 1921/2. 1939: Seki-machi, No-machi. Deshi in 1937: 0.
History: trained as swordsmith from Showa 10 (1935) April under Okada Kaneyoshi .
Summary: during the war was employed by Noshu Nipponto Tanrenjo. Brother of Okada Kaneyoshi.
1938: 3rd shinsakuto exhibition received Nyusen-sho.
1942: Tosho Banzuke 6th level of 7 (Chuge Saku)
Example mei: Kanesada 兼定
Noshu Seki ju Okada Kanesada saku 濃州関住岡田兼定

[Krzysio]

Thank you Mal

 

Just ask the seller and yes the saya was repainted ,thats how he got it.

Waiting for more tang photos.

 

[Krzysio]

I do like this sword but with repainted saya just not sure if it is something will appreciate. It will probably bother me forever.

Asking price is $1200, is this a good deal?

 

Thanks

[Bruce Pennington]

That's an average market value for an officer gunto.  The saya was made to be covered by a leather cover.  They often go missing over the past 80 years.  You can see the remains of the leather retention strap on in the seppa just above the tsuba.  The end with the snap is broken off, which is also pretty common as the leather gets dry and brittle over time.

[Krzysio]

Thank you Bruce. That makes sense now. Wish they never repainted and let it be. I just purchased officer type 98 sword that has a leather cover for the same price.

Will just keep on looking for nice example that is full original. I just start collecting and actually very surprise how many are out there for sale. See new swords pup up every week.

Just going to wait till something i like very much comes along.