Paired NCR gunto presentation box?

[buchtas]

Hi everyone, before I start I want to mention that I dont have pictures, YET.

Point of this is to start the discussion on this and lay some questions I have.

I might ask questions that were probably answered here (YES, i did went through number of old posts)

ALSO, this is important, one of the swords in question is one that is mentioned in this article that I found references to here in some amount: http://ohmura-study.net/308.html

Sword described in the articel is currently on public display at Military history institue museum, VHU in Prag.

 

It caught my attention while I was checking/doing maintenance on the exhibit pieces on display. When I focused on the details i noticed that its fittings are adorned with NCR symbol. Later I went on the forum and to consult head of the restoration department (my boss) and I found that yes it was on display at the Prague castle in the Theresian palace years ago (this is where the Omhura study connects to this) And after that I found out that this sword came in in high quality presentation brocade case, with another identical sword (just differently colored tassel) and also with high quality binoculars also NCR marked...... And judging by the way it is made it is most likely Japanese made.

Again I dont have photos of the whole package yet, but the case is period correct to the pre war era (aging of the brocade confirms this)

But I want to throw the question out to the open if this is something that was done or is it one of a kind something.

To add, It came to the museum as a diplomatic/political gift from Vietnam if I remmember corectly. And as mentioned in the linked article one tassel is cream white/brownish pink and the other one is dark blue/brown.

I have examined both of the swords previously, them being 2 of the 6 Japanese swords in total in the collection I am often drawn to them while visiting the depository, They are not "resoted" nor rebuild or rewrapped I believe that they are unaltered original condition, they are also near mint condition. blades them selves are, I think cloudy? I guess a bit faded or tired, not damaged or corroded thankfully.

I have aded a picture of the kashira because before I talked with my boss i intended to post it here for identification. On a side note 40 years ago he did identify it as a railways sword, correctly, but since Japanese swords are not plentifull nor a main object of research they are left unstudied and labeled just as "katana" I intend to change that and provide the curator of the edge weapons collection with correct inforamtion he can add it to the information card of the items.

 

Anyway I hope this is not boring and again I am so sorry for the lack of photos, it will be rectified with my next visit to the collection depository.

 

Any piece of inforamtion to the debate is more than welcome,

 

Best regard,

 

Martin 

 

[Rawa]

You are right, yours have " ncr crest" too please add more [tassel!]

Check this thread

https://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic/28631-railway-swords-stamps/

Edited 21 hours ago by Rawa

[Bruce Pennington]

Martin,

Help me understand your question - Are you asking if presenting swords in high quality cases was a normal practice?  Or are you asking if presenting swords to officials, in general, was a normal practice?

 

I personally have not seen them in elaborate cases, but have seen them in plain wooden boxes.  I have seen several presentation swords.  One in our files was made by the South Manchurian Railway (Mantetsu) and presented to city officials of 3 small towns.  Others are found in fancy tachi fittings and were given to railway employees when they reached 25 years of service.

 

Looking forward to seeing the sword and box of your post.

[buchtas]

3 hours ago, Bruce Pennington said:

Are you asking if presenting swords in high quality cases was a normal practice?  Or are you asking if presenting swords to officials, in general, was a normal practice?

 

Hi, sorry, my question probably got lost while writing the text, but my question would be probably both, but specifically about the NCR swords. 

And maybye I would need to understand the rarity of such swords I get that they are really scarce but I have no frame of refference for it.

 

 

 

 

[PNSSHOGUN]

Don't see Mon on Mantetsu swords very often either, look forward to additional pictures if the musuem allows. 

[When Necessary]

I remember seeing that sword in Prague Castle 20 years ago. 
As I recall, it's not a mon, it's the railway symbol again in silver.

Edited 6 hours ago by When Necessary