Bosco Posted June 24 Report Posted June 24 Hi, I just want to get some advice here. If I have a mumei sword thats already had a NTHK NPO Yushuto certificate and was published on NPO booklet. Is it necessary to go for NBTHK shinsa ?. What’s the benefit for it ?. Quote
Bosco Posted June 24 Author Report Posted June 24 ChatGPT including our group as reference . I like that. Is this the proper answer I’m looking for ? Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted June 24 Report Posted June 24 ChatGPT being diplomatic I see. Did you see where it found the information? (This NMB site is quoted as reference.) Quote
Bosco Posted June 24 Author Report Posted June 24 18 minutes ago, Bugyotsuji said: ChatGPT being diplomatic I see. Did you see where it found the information? (This NMB site is quoted as reference.) I think it’s the one from 2020. Where everyone discussed about the old scoring system. 1 Quote
Jussi Ekholm Posted June 24 Report Posted June 24 If not in hurry and can spend extra cash I would put it to Hozon & Tokubetsu Hozon shinsa. I only have the 1st NTHK book but I know there are at least 12 NTHK Yushu swords that have been also been papered by NBTHK. In the worst case scenario if the NBTHK attribution would be much "lower" nobody would need to know it was sent to their shinsa... But I think it seems like a nice sword and as it is NTHK Yushu it shouldn't get too bad attribution I'd guess. 3 Quote
Bosco Posted June 24 Author Report Posted June 24 1 hour ago, Jussi Ekholm said: If not in hurry and can spend extra cash I would put it to Hozon & Tokubetsu Hozon shinsa. I only have the 1st NTHK book but I know there are at least 12 NTHK Yushu swords that have been also been papered by NBTHK. In the worst case scenario if the NBTHK attribution would be much "lower" nobody would need to know it was sent to their shinsa... But I think it seems like a nice sword and as it is NTHK Yushu it shouldn't get too bad attribution I'd guess. I mean the benefit of NBTHK, at this moment i dont know what else this blade can be attributed to. Quote
Tohagi Posted June 24 Report Posted June 24 Hello, Much collectors prizes NBTHK as sure and relevant, many don't trust NTHK NPO above a certain price level. If you think it could go tokubetsu or juyo, submit it for shinza, If you don't then let it be... Best, Eric Quote
Rivkin Posted June 24 Report Posted June 24 Can't say anything without better pictures. It does look like very Yamato-ish Yamato Shizu, the key question is jigane any good. Quote
Bosco Posted June 25 Author Report Posted June 25 4 hours ago, Rivkin said: Can't say anything without better pictures. It does look like very Yamato-ish Yamato Shizu, the key question is jigane any good. This is the best they have Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted June 25 Report Posted June 25 The best 'they' have. So you don't actually have it? Is it in Japan, and would you be able to ask them to submit it for NBTHK shinsa for you? If you have the patience, time and money, then sure, why not submit it to the NBTHK? If the same attribution comes back, that would make the attribution super solid. (Sometimes an unexpected result comes back, but in this case you don't think it will.) As Jussi says, you could always throw away the result if you don't like it. Ultimately 'gold standard' NBTHK papers tend to hold a little more weight amongst potential buyers, if resale is what you are worrying about. If you are confident in the blade, though, that is the most important thing. 2 Quote
Bosco Posted June 25 Author Report Posted June 25 1 hour ago, Bugyotsuji said: The best 'they' have. So you don't actually have it? Is it in Japan, and would you be able to ask them to submit it for NBTHK shinsa for you? If you have the patience, time and money, then sure, why not submit it to the NBTHK? If the same attribution comes back, that would make the attribution super solid. (Sometimes an unexpected result comes back, but in this case you don't think it will.) As Jussi says, you could always throw away the result if you don't like it. Ultimately 'gold standard' NBTHK papers tend to hold a little more weight amongst potential buyers, if resale is what you are worrying about. If you are confident in the blade, though, that is the most important thing. Yes still in Japan, i’m getting a Koshirae made and shinsa after that. Im just curious about the outcome. 1 Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted June 25 Report Posted June 25 Ah, ok, then in that case, as others have said above, go for it!!! (The wait will be exciting, and don't forget to let us know the result! ) 1 Quote
Brano Posted June 25 Report Posted June 25 In the previous post it was stated on NTHK papers Kenmu Era ( 1334-1336 ) However, according to sugata I would say a few decades younger around the Enbun/Joji 1 Quote
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