Habaxi Posted April 29 Report Posted April 29 If a seller didnt want to tell me his swordsmith identity is that a red flag? since he didnt mention things like the swordsmith himself didnt want to reveal his identity (which is a normal thing sometimes) "highlighting that he said he takes the swords he sell from world-wide known swordsmiths and said he will not tell the swordsmith name because he is the face of the brand not the swordsmith" Quote
nulldevice Posted April 29 Report Posted April 29 That's a huge red flag if someone won't tell you the smith that made a sword you are interested. I'd 100% never trust that seller. Quote
Habaxi Posted April 29 Author Report Posted April 29 1 minute ago, nulldevice said: That's a huge red flag if someone won't tell you the smith that made a sword you are interested. I'd 100% never trust that seller. Thank you, im looking for more opinions (to correct me about if it is ok for a swordsmith not to reveal his identity if im wrong) and to Confront the seller who claims to be an expert Quote
nulldevice Posted April 29 Report Posted April 29 12 minutes ago, Habaxi said: Thank you, im looking for more opinions (to correct me about if it is ok for a swordsmith not to reveal his identity if im wrong) and to Confront the seller who claims to be an expert No real sword expert who is trying to sell you a blade would conceal the swordsmith that made a blade that they are selling. Are you talking about an antique Japanese sword you are interested in buying? Quote
Mark S. Posted April 29 Report Posted April 29 Kinda like someone telling you they are selling a car, but won’t tell you what kind. 1 Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted April 29 Report Posted April 29 If he had valuable blades from big named smiths, he'd sure as heck tell you and ask a high price. Refusing to give smith names means he's got mumei or common smiths and then wants to jack up the prices. Quote
Bosco Posted April 30 Report Posted April 30 Look like you buying a shinsakuto ( freshly made ). Sound very fishy, could be unknown smith, could be very well known smith but he needs money so he selling few for cheap price ?. I strongly suggest you not buying it if this is the case. Many smiths out there would proudly have their name sign. Quote
Habaxi Posted April 30 Author Report Posted April 30 7 hours ago, nulldevice said: No real sword expert who is trying to sell you a blade would conceal the swordsmith that made a blade that they are selling. Are you talking about an antique Japanese sword you are interested in buying? 3 hours ago, Bruce Pennington said: If he had valuable blades from big named smiths, he'd sure as heck tell you and ask a high price. Refusing to give smith names means he's got mumei or common smiths and then wants to jack up the prices. He sells swords with modern steel like 1095 ones, i saw a video where he hit literal cement bricks with a 1095 katana(which may be a sign for a good heat treatment) , i know these swords are better functionally but dont have the same value of tamahagane ones, he says these swords are made according to the Traditions, but what rises my doubts he also sells for a range of (1000$- 2000$) "folded" modern steel swords which is only for aesthetics but damages the sword severely if the swordsmith is not expert enough, im in iraq so his page is the only one here we dont have much, ill be thankful if anyone here know Reliable sites that have shipping to iraq so i can buy a new tamahagane sword or a historic one with shirasaya or anything that has real value. Quote
Habaxi Posted April 30 Author Report Posted April 30 1 hour ago, Bosco said: Look like you buying a shinsakuto ( freshly made ). Sound very fishy, could be unknown smith, could be very well known smith but he needs money so he selling few for cheap price ?. I strongly suggest you not buying it if this is the case. Many smiths out there would proudly have their name sign. The seller has his own brand name on the blade instead of the swordsmith signature, when someone asked him why the swordsmith doesn't sign the sword he says it's only for historic or tamahagane swords not for a modern steel ones (which it is what he sell) which contradicts what he says that his swords are made in old Japanese traditions and the only difference is in the steel so he can provides affordable swords, I hope you read my other response to the brothers here so you can get the full picture and also help me. Quote
Bosco Posted April 30 Report Posted April 30 2 hours ago, Habaxi said: The seller has his own brand name on the blade instead of the swordsmith signature, when someone asked him why the swordsmith doesn't sign the sword he says it's only for historic or tamahagane swords not for a modern steel ones (which it is what he sell) which contradicts what he says that his swords are made in old Japanese traditions and the only difference is in the steel so he can provides affordable swords, I hope you read my other response to the brothers here so you can get the full picture and also help me. You very wrong here, to be considered Traditional Nihonto it has to be tamahagane. So he selling you china made one. Maybe he just a third party seller, he has his name custom on sword to sell to you. Quote
Bosco Posted April 30 Report Posted April 30 Just buy a proper one …. Doubt his one made in Japan at all. Nihonto signed with School or Smith name. Not a business owner … Quote
Habaxi Posted April 30 Author Report Posted April 30 52 minutes ago, Bosco said: You very wrong here, to be considered Traditional Nihonto it has to be tamahagane. So he selling you china made one. Maybe he just a third party seller, he has his name custom on sword to sell to you. Yeah i know that a katana would not be considered a katana unless it is made of tamahagane, but here no one are that strict about the Japanese traditions they just promote swords made of modern steel and raise the value by saying a swordsmith made that just like he make traditional katana (hand forging, quenching and tempering, etc...) i see no problem of selling things like that but im worried about other things i mentioned earlier, also do you know any Reliable site that can ship a real katana to iraq? Quote
Brian Posted April 30 Report Posted April 30 This is a traditional Japanese sword forum, so getting recommendations on what are essentially modern copies with no artistic value is probably not going to get you the answer you are looking for. You're trying to buy something to swing around that looks like a Nihonto but isn't. Doesn't really matter who made it, it likely comes from China, and no matter how well made, it's still going to be a fake copy of a Japanese sword. 1 1 Quote
Bosco Posted April 30 Report Posted April 30 53 minutes ago, Habaxi said: Yeah i know that a katana would not be considered a katana unless it is made of tamahagane, but here no one are that strict about the Japanese traditions they just promote swords made of modern steel and raise the value by saying a swordsmith made that just like he make traditional katana (hand forging, quenching and tempering, etc...) i see no problem of selling things like that but im worried about other things i mentioned earlier, also do you know any Reliable site that can ship a real katana to iraq? Depends on your country regulation. Any dealer should be able to ship to you without a problem. With 1k-2k USD I think u can get some used shinsakuto with that amount of money. It’s a big problem selling chinese made one and claimed it made in traditional methods. So better off else where to ask this question. Quote
Lewis B Posted April 30 Report Posted April 30 A Reddit group such as https://www.reddit.com/r/SWORDS/ might be more useful for fact finding for the type of blade you're looking to buy. Quote
Habaxi Posted April 30 Author Report Posted April 30 1 hour ago, Lewis B said: A Reddit group such as https://www.reddit.com/r/SWORDS/ might be more useful for fact finding for the type of blade you're looking to buy. Thanks Quote
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