Cutting Test

[zilul]

Evening gents,

                          the  mei , adjacent to the date on the attached picture I am reading as Ichi do otoshi , cannot find a reference for this mei that excludes the " no " kangi so assume that I may be reading it incorrectly, the secod picture , where the gold has been picked out / lost , I am reading as kesa otoshi, these mei are on the same blade so struggling to understand the context, any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Paul

[ROKUJURO]

Paul,

try to post better photos not made with direct light, but from the side. Some KANJI (not kangi) are difficult to read. MEI means 'signature'.

[uwe]

 “一胴落” and “袈裟落” I see the same!

Not unusual to have 2 tests on one sword, but the writing is a bit odd, I admit.

 

[John C]

2 hours ago, zilul said:

cannot find a reference for this mei that excludes the " no "

Paul:

Not sure if this helps, however the "no" is usually only spoken, not written. So you normally will not find a "no" kanji within the mei. 

John C.

[zilul]

16 hours ago, uwe said:

 “一胴落” and “袈裟落” I see the same!

Not unusual to have 2 tests on one sword, but the writing is a bit odd, I admit.

 

Uwe,

thanks for the reply, do you think that they are two different tests or one and the same?

[zilul]

17 hours ago, John C said:

Paul:

Not sure if this helps, however the "no" is usually only spoken, not written. So you normally will not find a "no" kanji within the mei. 

John C.

John,

           thanks for taking the time to  reply and I would agree that to " no " is not written in mei but the reverse is true in cutting tests, the  attached is " ichi no do kiri otoshi " , the "no " is just below the ichi.

 

Paul

 

[SteveM]

It's OK to omit the "no", even in cutting tests. It will be understood from the context. 

The Jūyō Index compiled by Jussi shows two jūyō swords with the inscription "一胴".