Freddie Posted February 20, 2021 Report Posted February 20, 2021 I guess this is not an Origami, is it like a recipe? what does it say? Quote
Ray Singer Posted February 20, 2021 Report Posted February 20, 2021 This is a torokusho ( a sword license) for a wakizashi signed Inoue Shinkai with a Kanbun 10 date. 1 Quote
Ray Singer Posted February 20, 2021 Report Posted February 20, 2021 Also, this is not an authentication paper of the blade's signature. This does not tell you that the wakizashi has an authentic signature of Shinkai, only the details of the blade itself for registration purposes. Quote
Freddie Posted February 20, 2021 Author Report Posted February 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Ray Singer said: Also, this is not an authentication paper of the blade's signature. This does not tell you that the wakizashi has an authentic signature of Shinkai, only the details of the blade itself for registration purposes. Asum, thx. No I at least can Google torokusho and learn all can about it. :-) Quote
Ray Singer Posted February 20, 2021 Report Posted February 20, 2021 Here is a good place to start. http://www.jssus.org/nkp/japanese_sword_laws.html Quote
Freddie Posted February 20, 2021 Author Report Posted February 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Ray Singer said: Here is a good place to start. http://www.jssus.org/nkp/japanese_sword_laws.html Ray do you know if this color paper considered green or white? Quote
SteveM Posted February 20, 2021 Report Posted February 20, 2021 You are confusing the license (torokusho) with the authentication papers. This paper is the license. It just registers the details about the sword (length, inscription on it, number of peg holes). It makes no attempt to validate the authenticity of the sword. The green and white (etc.) papers are "authentication papers/certificates" issued by the quasi-official authenticating body (Nihon Bijutsu Token Hozoen Kyokai - aka NBTHK). The NBTHK issues papers validating the sword's signature, or, in the cases where there is no signature, they will give their judgment on who made the sword, providing the sword is a real Japanese sword and is in reasonably good shape). More reading: https://new.uniquejapan.com/nbthk-nihon-bijutsu-token-hozon-kyokai-certification-paper-ranking/ 2 Quote
Freddie Posted February 20, 2021 Author Report Posted February 20, 2021 17 minutes ago, SteveM said: You are confusing the license (torokusho) with the authentication papers. This paper is the license. It just registers the details about the sword (length, inscription on it, number of peg holes). It makes no attempt to validate the authenticity of the sword. The green and white (etc.) papers are "authentication papers/certificates" issued by the quasi-official authenticating body (Nihon Bijutsu Token Hozoen Kyokai - aka NBTHK). The NBTHK issues papers validating the sword's signature, or, in the cases where there is no signature, they will give their judgment on who made the sword, providing the sword is a real Japanese sword and is in reasonably good shape). More reading: https://new.uniquejapan.com/nbthk-nihon-bijutsu-token-hozon-kyokai-certification-paper-ranking/ No I don’t, I just forgot to attach the new picture. :-) no you can see. Quote
SteveM Posted February 20, 2021 Report Posted February 20, 2021 Ahh - OK, that is the old white paper (Kicho Token). 1 Quote
Freddie Posted February 20, 2021 Author Report Posted February 20, 2021 1 hour ago, SteveM said: Ahh - OK, that is the old white paper (Kicho Token). Are you able to translate what origami level the sword is? If you can, I would be super glad for any information you can give to be able to continue my investigation. Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted February 20, 2021 Report Posted February 20, 2021 As Steve said above, the white paper (for a different blade) says Kichō Tōken, which is the standard level. (Valuable blade.) Probably equivalent to today’s Hozon Tōken.(?) Quote
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