kissakai Posted August 15, 2020 Report Posted August 15, 2020 First 光 mitsu 月 gatsu ari tomo This is the best I can do but may be wrong - Any info helps Quote
PietroParis Posted August 15, 2020 Report Posted August 15, 2020 I suppose it wants to read Kogetsu 光月. Alas, it looks like a 20-century tourist piece to me, so the reading of the signature is not particularly relevant. It is certainly not the early carver who is listed in Davey's book as using that combination of characters... P.S. this list of carvers is always very useful when I try to decipher a signature. 1 Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted August 15, 2020 Report Posted August 15, 2020 Sadly, I fear that Pietro is correct on all counts. (Most us us walk this gravelly path in bare feet...) Quote
kissakai Posted August 15, 2020 Author Report Posted August 15, 2020 Thanks for the feedback No problem for me as it didn't cost much but I learn a bit more about reading the mei The list of carvers is a good reference Quote
kissakai Posted August 16, 2020 Author Report Posted August 16, 2020 Hi Pietro I found the mei listing so useful - thanks For ease of my use I've put all the names into an excel spreadsheet so it is searchable It was a big list having almost 3,500 names and just over 850 different kanji I would have liked to put the search section in count order of kanji but was just too much for me If anyone wants a copy then use the link below https://www.dropbox.com/s/xexqx5bgiczv5l8/Netsuke mei.xlsx?dl=0 If you find it useful then it would be nice to make a small donation to the NMB (your choice) Grev 1 Quote
PietroParis Posted August 16, 2020 Report Posted August 16, 2020 Hi Grev! I can search the list directly on the webpage, it’s sufficient to copypaste the kanji in the “find” function of my browser (firefox). This way, as soon as I recognize one kanji in the signature I can quickly browse through all of the names that include it, usually it doesn’t take more than a couple of minutes to find one o more candidates. Then I google around for examples of the carver’s signature to compare. Anyway, I downloaded your excel sheet. It is well organized and I’m sure that lots of people will find it useful. Quote
kissakai Posted August 16, 2020 Author Report Posted August 16, 2020 I understand what you mean but I'm old school Quote
kissakai Posted August 17, 2020 Author Report Posted August 17, 2020 Is this real ivory? I see it is obviously not bone. You can clearly see the striations on the first image and I don't want to do a hot pin test as I might return it Also I have nothing to compare the weight As I may return I'd appreciation an approximation of the tourist price as it may not be worth returning. Brutal is good in this case With thanks Grev Quote
PietroParis Posted August 17, 2020 Report Posted August 17, 2020 The striations in the first picture don't look at all like Schreger lines of elephant ivory: but I don't know what else they might point to. A useful reference for identifying ivory and ivory-like materials (from which I lifted the picture above) can be downloaded from this link. As to the price, I don't know what to say. I suspect that an experienced nestuke collector would simply not buy it... Quote
kissakai Posted August 17, 2020 Author Report Posted August 17, 2020 Ideal example - thanks I read about the Schreger lines so that's help and I will return it Quote
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