Type of Hamon? Different on both sides

[Blazeaglory]

Hello all. Hope all is well with everyone

 

So boredom has crept upon me once again and I'm trying to put a name to this style of Hamon. I've gone through all the typical answers but none quite fit. One side has a gunome/notare style and the other seems to want to be some kind of Gunome/Uma no ha midare  with ashi? I really cant tell

 

I've included 2 extra pics of the Omote side of this wakizashi to show how the "gunome hills" actually form almost complete circles but resembles horns that almost touch in the middle/top. Its vague but if you look close and compare the two pics you can see it and it is only done on one side.

 

 

I was hoping for some constructive criticism?

 

EDIT:The pics didn't upload in order but there are 2 pics for Omote side and 2 pics for Ura side and then the 2 other pics (different colors) of just the Hamon for the Omote side. Each pic (of the 4 for the full blade) represents one half of the cutting edge, basically top and bottom.

 

 

[Ganko]

I cannot really see the habuchi due to the heavy kesho. FYI, I found a good way to photograph both sides at the same time by placing a mirror alongside the blade with the blades edge up.

[Ken-Hawaii]

Agreed that the actual hamon is difficult to discern. TRy taking a angled shot like this:

[Lance]

If the tops of the hamon  loop around, possibly koshi-no-hiraita gunome-midare?

 

From Markus Sesko's Blog;

Towards the end of the Muromachi period, the trend of a more complex gunome was still forwarded what resulted in the case of the Sukesada line in the so-called „kani no tsume“ (蟹の爪), the famous „crab claws“, where individual koshi-no-hiraita gunome-midare elements open towards the top and end in chôji-yakigashira which remind as the name suggests of crab claws (see picture 6).

 

Picture 5: katana of Gorôzaemon Kiyomitsu (五郎左衛門清光) dated Tenbun 24 (1555)

 

Picture 6: Schematic representation of a Sue-Bizen-hamon with kani-no-tsume. We can easily see how the isolated yô of the Ôei-Bizen smiths become again dividing elements on nioi basis (i.e. ashi) and give so a further complexity to the koshi-no-hiraita gunome-midare.

https://markussesko.com/2013/03/13/a-brief-outline-of-the-changes-in-workmanship-of-the-later-bizen-tradition/

Regards,

Lance

[paulb]

Dwain

Forgive me if I am stating something you already know but can I suggest you dont try and tie yourself down with trying to define a hamon. Most, especially the more complex ones combine many different elements. In addtion to that some terms are open to interpretation one mans gunome is anothers  choji etc. Fundementally there are two types

Sugu- straight

Midare- not straight

everythng else becomes an addition to basic. Identify the different elements that appear without necessarily trying to label the hamon as a single entity.

(works for me anyway)

[Blazeaglory]

Thanks! Yah I'm really not worried about it. I was trying to do a kantei and it dawned on me that I couldn't really figure out what it was.

It's just weird. I thought they were "crab claws" at first but they seem to be circles with a tiny break in the top, almost complete but sharp and not defined like the crab claws. There is only 2 or 3 of them as well.

There is also allot of hataraki, or activity outside of the hamon (I don't know the word but it's allot of clouds of black nie and other things in weird shapes) . I just feel like the smith was trying to say something. Like one day I'm going to see a pattern and finally see all the answers or something but probably not lol