Rich T Posted October 21, 2007 Report Posted October 21, 2007 Hi all, I am looking for someone who has the Haynes Auction catalogue #2 and the Mosle Auction catalogue. I am after a scan of a particular mei and information if possible. It is a Nobuie signature know as "Wide Spaced" In the Haynes catalogue #2 it is Lot #25 and in Mosle it is on page 167, item #427 Cheers all Rich Quote
myochin Posted October 21, 2007 Report Posted October 21, 2007 Hi Rich, Checked Haynes #2 but lot 25 i s Heianjo tsuba ?? Don't have the Moslé catalogue but I do have Izzard's catalogue of fittings from the Moslé collection (2004) but I can't see a Nobuie. Have you checked Iida Kazuo's book "Nobuie Tsuba" (1980) ? In the English version of the Token Bijutsu journal there are some Nobuie in the Materpieces section, check issue n°37 - 45. In TB n°4 there is an article on Nobuie. Hope that helps. Paul. PS: it is Haynes #1 you need. I will scan the pages later on but I am afraid that the pictures are of poor quality. Quote
Rich T Posted October 21, 2007 Author Report Posted October 21, 2007 Hi Paul, thanks for that, the information came form the Haynes Catalogue #7. I do not have the Nobuie book unfortunately. I might look for that in Japan though I have a bunch of other things I want also. Cheers mate Rich Quote
Ludolf Richter Posted October 21, 2007 Report Posted October 21, 2007 Hi Rich,it's not The Haynes cat.#2 but cat. #1.The 1914 book about the Mosle Collection (in German;item 427 on page 80) does not contain pics.Besides the poor quality pic from the Haynes cat #1 nr.25 there may be a better one.The Mosle Collection was sold by Parke-Bernet in the fifties.I tried to get the respective 2 auction catalogues via Ebay,but was not successful.The seller was a NMB member (I forgot the name) from Florida.Maybe he or another member does have these auction catalogues and there is a pic of that Tsuba.Cheers.Ludolf Quote
Brian Posted October 21, 2007 Report Posted October 21, 2007 Rich, Is there a different, larger book than "Japanese Sword Fittings from the Alexander Mosle Collection?" I thought that was the one, but it only has 170 fittings, and doesn't have a Nobuie in it. Must be a different larger catalog I guess. Brian Quote
Pete Klein Posted October 21, 2007 Report Posted October 21, 2007 OK -- I'll try to parse this out. The 1914 book, 'Japanische Kunstwerke Der Sammlung Mosle' is the plate collection from the exhibition catalogue, 'Ausstellung Japan. Kunstwerke Waffen - Schwertzie-Raten - Lacke - Gewebe Holzschnitte Sammlung Mosle - Berlin 1909 - Konigliches Kunstgewerbemuseum' and the Nobuiye in question is found on plate XXXVIII, # 427. The reference in Haynes #7 to catalogue #2 is incorrect (as stated earlier) and is actually from the sales catalogue #1. The picture in catalogue #7 is far superior to that in #1. I will upload a scan from the 1914 plate. As for the mei I feel it falls in line with the 'Futoji mei' of the second Nobuie (from 'Nobuie...Akiyama, 1926). I have reservations with Haynes conclusion that the three examples shown in his catalogue #7 are by the same artist as the other two show mei characteristic of the 'Hanare mei' of the first Nobuie. None of the three seem to be illustrated in any of the Japanese texts. It is either that they are not considered shoshin to Nobuie or it is quite possible that they reside outside of Japan and have not been available to them for consideration. It is an interesting topic as there is still considerable debate over the different forms of mei and much is still to be learned. Quote
Pete Klein Posted October 21, 2007 Report Posted October 21, 2007 Ludolf -- sorry about that. They went to a collector in Canada. If I run across them again I'll let you know. I still have a set which was owned by Dr. Greenfield with his annotations and this tsuba was part of the first sale at Parke Bernet, April 22nd, 1948, lot 65. The four sold for $65. (selling a Japanese art collection right after WW II was not the best in timing). Izzard has a great write up on Mosle in his catalogue from 2004. This catalogue is still available through his gallerie I believe. http://www.izzardasianart.com and through http://www.abebooks.com from time to time. Quote
Rich T Posted October 22, 2007 Author Report Posted October 22, 2007 Paul, Ludolf and Pete fo rthe excellent information, and thanks Paul and Pete for emailing the images. it is greatly appreciated. All the best Rich Quote
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