Adrian Posted February 13, 2013 Author Report Posted February 13, 2013 I see how I didn't specify which of his books I was talking about, so to finish my contribution:http://www.amazon.com/Genealogies-Japan ... 3842359543 http://www.lulu.com/shop/markus-sesko/t ... 23849.html From one newbie to another, the sempai's here are a great bunch, who freely share their time and knowledge. You and I need to acknowledge that we are the ones who are taking more than we contribute at this point in time. Thank you Junichi. You're obviously correct for the most part (including the one about taking more than we contribute at this point in time). Unfortunatelly, while most of the old members are very much willing to get out of their way to help, there are (very) few others who consider that beginners should in general shut up and be grateful for any shred of information (no matter how incomplete or even incorrect) thrown their way with great boredom. Curran is one fine example of this category and if you look at how he edited his message after I posted my reply you're going to notice he has other flaws as well This being said, I really hope we can get back at talking about books useful for the beginners. Hopefully this isn't an annoying theme. P.S. I really hope Brian doesn't delete all this before Ford has the chance to read the bit about himself. I don't know how he ended up believing I said that viewtopic.php?f=2&t=15048
sanjuro Posted February 13, 2013 Report Posted February 13, 2013 Mods. Isnt it time to lock this thread? Its going nowhere fast. On the other hand, we could of course keep it open to see who can formulate the best veiled insults.
John A Stuart Posted February 13, 2013 Report Posted February 13, 2013 Being a forum to discuss and offer insight or accumulate knowledge it often becomes tedious to repeat over and over the same advice. It is understood that there are varying degrees of computer competancy and general knowledge, so, with a little patience all is good. However, with all the search engines out there and the info web-bound it should only require a gentle nudge to direct someone in the right direction to ascertain the knowledge for themselves. It is mostly out there. Even on this forum alone there are links to resources never before found in one place. Knowledge obtained by hard graft will be retained much better than if it is spoonfed. If one is serious about this study the joys of that eureka moment where something is researched and found to be factual by one's own device can not be dismissed. Then shared and verified. Take your time and absorb what you learn, it is not a race. John
Brian Posted February 13, 2013 Report Posted February 13, 2013 Wow. I am losing patience with the bickering lately. Removed one thread today (someone start a new topic and protest or debate that...and they will be removed themselves) and now we have to lock another. Lotsa people who have been here forever, helping out. Most of us know the background to them...Ford and Curran and others. They are furniture here, and get lots of leeway and room to breathe. Don't challenge them constantly, and often you don't have to take everything overly serious either. Newcommers need to read more and maybe post a little less. Soon they will be giving advice to others. But until that happens, less is more as I have said before. Search the forum. Most of this has been covered before. If not..listen to advice, and for goodness sakes!...don't try to post an answer to every comment. Just ignore those you don't like, and contemplate those you do. For the record...this time it is directed at you Adrian..and others. Relax, read, and ruffle a few less feathers. Brian
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