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That was mentioned, I didn't know. The website speaks that all even TH can be submitted by non members (for an extra fee). To me shizu hozon is nothing but pure joy, you know - it'd be enough, plus I am in no rush. Covid is getting defeated slowly but surely so I believe it'd be better for the post also. I feel like I'd love to have a trustworthy person that'd work in the honor of the blades but if not, NTHK would be sufficient enough. We shall see! John

Bienvenido, Which one appears wrong. It'd help me sort out what I am shipping to Japan.. eventually I appreciate any input John

I saw a Juyo at the Chicago show. Astounding. Yes, might be a waste of money But worth the risk John

Well I posted 1 which is a guarantee. The other are Shizu and some more Shizu. Well different papers than NBTHK so plenty of speculation AND plenty of desire. Understandable i hope. John

I appreciate that. I am at the already papered (not by NBTHK) so I somewhat know what I am holding in my hands. Failure to get Juyo wouldn't be a disappointment. At the end not many signed Shizu blades exist these days. .. well the ones in the spotlight that is. Also I am not here to compete, I will get what I want eventually. Thought I can do it via the best channels hence my questions in my initial post. Cheers John

I appreciate that very much. Some of them have had their papers lost However the number of the certificate and its level are known. It'd be awesome if they could find and reissue that. The shortcut would be NTHK in SF this year. And in my rookie opinion, certain signed works are so rare they'd get TH minimum. I prefer not to believe that certain names or scholars get higher privilege in judgement than unknown collectors as myself but something to think about.. and last - the majority of what I have acquired hasn't seen daylight/spotlight So no matter what it is I know 3 are guaranteed Juyo, if not now then whenever they get IN the spotlight. Most likely I'll do it on my own John

I wouldn't. In person - yes. Too much negativity and unnecessary gossip Thank you John

I was going to do it but couldn't attend Sunday. My decision was to do it via the forum but with the recent developments I no longer wish to advertise except for the ones that I have zero interest in owning. I am sure it would have been a great study for all. consigning them with reputable dealers is an option or just throw them on the ebay grill. Sad.. John

It is what he says on his website. For me personally I believe Mr Benson would be the best choice as if the Juyo level requires a polish he is the one based on what I read. I will address the Yuhindo team and see what they say also. Great to have options. John

I appreciate it, but no, just a guy trying to preserve as many as I can physically... re oiling them is a week long process for me so I hope they produce the result I believe in and I hope some people buy the ones that I no longer want to own (☺). It'd be my first time for such adventure so secretly I wish my name is registered to them. I am certain 3 will definitely produce Juyo since what I read as qualifications is what their current state is at. I am willing to confess I learned how to run before I knew how to walk in collecting so that might have created all sorts of nuisances and tons of questions but.. I am already running hahaha John

Thank you guys. Mark, as long as it comes back, I am happy. I have 6 blades that HAVE to be tried for Juyo so I don't know whether doing it all together is better than one by one. I am just ultra frightened as USPS is unreliable around me and losing 6 at time versus one would be catastrophic to me as a beginner collector. :/ John

Understood Thank you John

Hola, Probably the topic has been discussed but what is the SAFEST way to submit a blade and when is the best time to do it? What's the process of doing it with or without an agent? Have blades gone missing? How long before it returns? Could you submit unpapered blade for Juyo and how does it work? How do you pay? Has anyone done it themselves and what are the steps that have to be taken? I have many more questions that don't surface at the moment and if anything of crucial importance has to be known, please do tell Thank you in advance John

Well, the hamon (which you can't see in those photos), the ji-nie, the 'oily' , blue steel. To me coarse appearing hada isn't necessarily a bad thing. I have numerous 12th century tachi and they all have similar areas where it looks like loose hada but it isn't and No, they aren't tired either (lucky me). I am sure a national treasure togishi knows a lot more than me about what issues such blade could present if a polish is needed and the criteria of labeling it chu Saku comprises of many more angles than mine but - it was only an opinion on my part also. I have always welcomed everyone's comments but never personal insults especially when my message clearly states that I am not looking to critique, argue or denounce someone that had all the knowledge to be a National treasure. Plus the argument went waaaay too far outside the topic and general forumite ethics. John

I am good Brian. Your friend needs manners course though.. John

Not surprised. I have shown 3 if my 120 collection and you - nothing. So totally ok with being in your blacklist JOHN

I don't need more for a chu Saku blade right? And no they are not open grains , no kizu, no kitae ware, no fukure nada! The reflection of the ji nie makes you feel that however in real life there are no such issues. End of story John

Wow.. going back to reading 😬 Gorgeous Cheers John

7.3 mm gasane.. very tired 🤦‍♂️ 21 1/2 nagasa Ubu And near mint Maybe you should show me your Saijo rating blades that you own for comparison. Because I have a considerable amount of them and looking at this chu Saku just brings me joy. There isn't even a scratch on it, that mint, not to mention I bought it for chump change. So be it as it may it will pass Hozon no problem that I am sure of. I don't need more out of it before it hits the market and brings about a pretty favorable return. Now to you my friend - if you don't have anything positive to say why bother? I don't see constructive criticism and I find that Pretty pathetic don't you think? I do. Wish you well, feel free to disregard my posts and comments as I shall do the same. Wasting time bickering is for idiots , not my cup of tea. John

Love 🖤 John

Your gamble will pay off. That I am sure of! Nice bet! John

I appreciate the view point and That is what I was hinting at... and If voicing my opinion isn't appealing enough than that's too bad and I dare say I couldn't care less where it stands in space. Of course nobody knows better than a togi from what I have read so far and for well known reasons.. unfortunately didn't see the tachi but saw some outstanding examples at the show! It sort of makes me want to reserve a boat load of tables but then I wouldn't be able to explain what I have so I'll just keep them in the shadows another 20 years 🤣 While NTHK isn't comparable to NBTHK I felt like Yushu papers are 'equivalent' to Juyo Token, as described online.. apparently not.. Cheers P.S. love the Yuhindo works.. except when they take the prices down so I don't know what mine are worth LOL John

I am not looking for a feud with a keyboard warrior! It is sad to see such behavior from a 'superior' member of this forum though.. some 'god-like' just can't get over themselves.. John

After last night uchiko has been banned from my house. I am glad I felt that it was scratching so I stopped. It is an inch of surface scratch, nothing serious but yet it happened. Done and done John

I think you need to reread what I wrote. I am sure you were a noob some years back and based on how you talk to people that you don't know makes me think you were a jerk well before that! John