Rare yasurime question

[george trotter]

Hi all,

I'm still trying to find out who the maker of one of my two unknown WWII blades is...sorry to be a pain, but I'm hoping members can help me here.

This is a question about a rare type of yasurime called kiri/sujikai (see pic).

Not only is it rare in general, but it seems ultra rare in Showa period 1935-1945...in fact, I have only seen it twice...

once on the nakago by Seisui 1944 of Tokyo (see my recent post below on "Unusual nakago inscriptions"), and

once on a oshigata of a nakago by Nagao Kunishiro 1941 of Aomori prefecture (5th seat 1941 later RJT). As I have seen two later works by this Kunishiro (1944 and post-war), I can say he usually worked in kattesagari yasurime.

 

So, to find out who used this rare kiri/sujikai yasurime during WWII period (as a clue to identifying my Seisui smith) I checked oshigatas and tang pics in all my Japanese gendaito references, in Slough, in Fuller & Gregory's oshigata books and in Rich Stein's Oshigata Database and have to report I saw NONE...so, as I know that Nagao Kunishiro of Aomori is definitely not Seisui of Tokyo...can I ask members to check their blades and records and let me know if they have any example of this yasurime and any information on the smith who used it please. I really hope an example of this rare yasurime turns up...

Many thanks,

[takakage]

Hi,

 

I don't know for showa swordsmiths, i find it on a shin shinto blade.

 

This one

 

http://www.seiyudo.com/ka-010134.htm

[george trotter]

Hi Patrick,

thanks for the link...if my Japanese is correct the nakago description says Kessho kiri yasurime. I can see a part of the lower tang (closeup) however that seems to show hira kiri - shinogi sujikai as you say. Nice that he worked so late...it would be great if a Showa period one turns up...

regards,

[george trotter]

Hi all.

still nothing? I check every day and... ...no Showa posts.

Are you suuure there are no Showa period gendaito blades in your collections with this kiri-sujikai yasurime? Has no-one even seen one?

How about you Chris...you've seen 100's of these blades...never seen one with this yasurime?

 

Am I doomed to never find a clue as to who made my Seisui blade?

 

Here's hoping...

[cabowen]

Hi all.

still nothing? I check every day and... ...no Showa posts.

Are you suuure there are no Showa period gendaito blades in your collections with this kiri-sujikai yasurime? Has no-one even seen one?

How about you Chris...you've seen 100's of these blades...never seen one with this yasurime?

 

Am I doomed to never find a clue as to who made my Seisui blade?

 

Here's hoping...

 

Sorry George, nothing sticks out in my memory....to be honest, yasuri-me are not what I usually remember about a sword...Most of my references are in storage so not much I can do now....

[george trotter]

Thanks anyway Chris...I know it is an unusual request...even a long shot...but maybe just raising it here will jog someone's memory and we will learn something after all. Can never hurt to ask...especially on NMB.

Regards to all,