Which generation, help please.

[Lindus]

Ex gunto mounted sword.

Opinions please. Mei looks odd related to Mekugi ana.

Roy

[george trotter]

Roy san,

I'd be interested in what Chris Bowen says, but I have seen this strangely altered nakago shape before...it was on a Kyugunto mounted sword...the shaving of the nakago mune with the small diagonal cut on the jiri was to accommodate the narrowing sweep of the kyugunto "sabre-type" hilt and downward curved hilt ending.

 

Reading your nakago, I would say the large hole is the original (slightly enlarged later at least once), then a small amount of suriage and machi-okuri leading to requiring the next hole up, then the small top hole for the kyugunto alterations.

 

As to which generation...the original hole is placed a little "higher" than for both 1st and 2nd (IMHO) and "Masa" seems too different to both also...just my observations...I am frequently incorrect.

Regards,

George.

[cabowen]

here are signatures of the shodai and nidai. Which one, if either, do you think it is?

[Mark]

looks nothing like either reference, spacing between 2 kanji of Yamato clearly different than references, Masa and Nori not close (at least to me)