newsworduser87 Posted April 21, 2024 Report Posted April 21, 2024 Hello there, I need help with the authentication of a sword I recently purchased, it is supposedly from the Muromachi period and signed by a Norimitsu. It was valued at €700-1000 which i would also like to know if thats accurate (i assume it was vastly overpriced in the valuation) but would mostly like to know if it is indeed from the Muromachi period and if the signature is genuine/any details are known on what Norimitsu. I also do not speak Japanese so cannot read the registration card. Quote
Rivkin Posted April 21, 2024 Report Posted April 21, 2024 I would ordinary think buying swords from this dealer is something for more experienced collectors since they are unpapered and always have kizu. Its a late Bizen like hamon, but my guess would be it could be genuine Kaga Norimitsu, 1520. He did not use kaga nakago and was a prolific Bizen imitator. But its just an example of what one can guess. Seeing the boshi and work details can lead to actual insight. 1 1 Quote
ROKUJURO Posted April 21, 2024 Report Posted April 21, 2024 Thomas, you will probably get opinions, but not true confirmation or authentication here, as we have only photos to work with. Your photos are mostly not well focused, so in case you would like more input, it would certainly help to post photos in the correct orientation: - NAKAGO photos with tip (KISSAKI) pointing upwards -- no hardware on the blade - photos taken directly from above - close-ups of NAKAGO, KISSAKI, HADA, HAMON.... - with light from the side - well focused - against a dark background to get a good contrast - presented as cut-out so nothing is distracting from the item 1 Quote
newsworduser87 Posted April 21, 2024 Author Report Posted April 21, 2024 11 hours ago, Rivkin said: I would ordinary think buying swords from this dealer is something for more experienced collectors since they are unpapered and always have kizu. Its a late Bizen like hamon, but my guess would be it could be genuine Kaga Norimitsu, 1520. He did not use kaga nakago and was a prolific Bizen imitator. But its just an example of what one can guess. Seeing the boshi and work details can lead to actual insight. Here are some additional photos, ill post more in the replies if that can add any insight. Theyre not the best but its all i have to work with until it clears customs. Any insight on the valuation? im doubting the experts 700-1000 valuation quite a bit especially considering it sold for much less than that. Quote
ROKUJURO Posted April 21, 2024 Report Posted April 21, 2024 Thomas, it does not help posting bad photos. See my post above to learn what we need. We can wait until you make better photos. Quote
Jussi Ekholm Posted April 21, 2024 Report Posted April 21, 2024 If I have the correct seller I believe the seller often has ads on Yahoo JP & eBay. The items that he has are mostly not hidden gems but legitimate antique items yet often bit problematic. The pricing Japan vs. eBay can be very different, I think the current value of the item would be roughly what you got it for, as that was the price it changed ownership. Quote
vajo Posted April 21, 2024 Report Posted April 21, 2024 WIth your first pictures i thought the boshi was heavy reshaped and the hamon runs out. With some light adjust i see that the boshi is ok. I think the waki is ok. A old warrior from Bizen. Quote
Rivkin Posted April 21, 2024 Report Posted April 21, 2024 Hard to be certain, pictures are not great, but my guess stands - Kaga Norimitsu is a possibility. There were couple of generations judging by dates and signature variations, probably 1520-1560. Another possibility is Gimei Bizen, but personally I would hope its Kaga. 1 Quote
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