tbonesullivan Posted January 5, 2022 Report Posted January 5, 2022 Another one from the vaults I suppose. Going back and translating past swords I've seen for translation practice. Back then I figured I would never be able to translate Japanese on tangs. Anyway, this wakizashi is signed 備州 長船 秀景 - BISHU OSAFUNE HIDEKAGE. I'm fairly confident on that. The other side, as far as I can tell, reads 享 徳 二 年 二 月 for the Kyou-toku era. However that first character doesn't look quite how it should. I also looked at all the other era names with 徳 as the second character, and it doesn't quite match those either. I have even considered it might be the "Northern Court" nengo 至徳 SHI-TOKU - 1384. Quote
ChrisW Posted January 5, 2022 Report Posted January 5, 2022 The patination doesn't look correct for a Muromachi era sword. Quote
Jussi Ekholm Posted January 5, 2022 Report Posted January 5, 2022 I think you are very close, to me it seems like Hōtoku (宝徳) 2 - 1450. 1 Quote
tbonesullivan Posted January 5, 2022 Author Report Posted January 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, Jussi Ekholm said: I think you are very close, to me it seems like Hōtoku (宝徳) 2 - 1450. AH!!!! I was going by this chart from Japanese sword index, which has a totally different looking character. That may explain why I was so confused. Thank you so much. Quote
tbonesullivan Posted January 5, 2022 Author Report Posted January 5, 2022 18 minutes ago, ChrisW said: The patination doesn't look correct for a Muromachi era sword. I recall it looking to have been oiled top to bottom. Unfortunately I can find no other examples from this smith to compare it to. Quote
Jussi Ekholm Posted January 5, 2022 Report Posted January 5, 2022 Here is a verified example by this smith dated to same year 1450, from Jūyō 34 session. Now what is interesting that in this he is signing with the form 寳徳 that is alternative way of signing the era (it was featured in Japaneseswordindex). Historically both styles were used however I am not sure if the smith would sign the year in different form in his career? Unfortunately I only have this one Hōtoku era signature from Hidekage in my records. https://www.aoijapan.net/tachi-bishu-osafune-hidekage-34th-nbthk-juyo-paper/ 1 Quote
tbonesullivan Posted January 6, 2022 Author Report Posted January 6, 2022 3 hours ago, Jussi Ekholm said: Here is a verified example by this smith dated to same year 1450, from Jūyō 34 session. Now what is interesting that in this he is signing with the form 寳徳 that is alternative way of signing the era (it was featured in Japaneseswordindex). Historically both styles were used however I am not sure if the smith would sign the year in different form in his career? Unfortunately I only have this one Hōtoku era signature from Hidekage in my records. https://www.aoijapan.net/tachi-bishu-osafune-hidekage-34th-nbthk-juyo-paper/ That is interesting definitely. The style of the Mei on both examples does look relatively similar, as well as the shape of the tang, including the profile of the Nakago-jiri. I do recall it having a nice Hamon. It sold quite some time ago, back when I was just starting to be able to read Nengo, due to a year of Japanese in college. Sadly we didn't get any pictures of the full blade, and with flash photography getting the hamon is difficult. We did get this picture however: Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted January 6, 2022 Report Posted January 6, 2022 The placement of the Mei seems a little odd for Bizen Wakizashi of this period, this placement is seen more on Tanto. Quote
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