kitsune Posted October 5, 2014 Report Posted October 5, 2014 Hello, What do you about this Sôshû Hiromasa mei? Quote
Brian Posted October 5, 2014 Report Posted October 5, 2014 Here is the larger pic: I think your knowledge is better than most of us here Serge. Obviously we are going to all say that judging a signature alone is almost impossible without seeing more pics. But I expect there is a catch if you are posting this here. To me, the Hiro looks a bit hesitant, and I would tentatively suggest gimei. But that is based on very little, and you will have seen more than we have of the rest of this sword. Looking forward to the rest of this story. Brian Quote
kitsune Posted October 5, 2014 Author Report Posted October 5, 2014 Hi Brian, Reviews are always important ... Hamon is midare-ba, nie deki, with some tobiyaki but not really hitatsura. The blade is not polished, it's difficult for photos. Tanago bara nakago, nie deki, tobiyaki, sue koto sugata with saki zori, I think it's possible, but .... Quote
Brian Posted October 5, 2014 Report Posted October 5, 2014 Serge, I think the chances are slim... Taken from this one: http://www.tokka.biz/sword/hiromasa2.html Brian Edit to add Jamie's pic below. Quote
cabowen Posted October 5, 2014 Report Posted October 5, 2014 There are said to be 6 or so generations of Hiromasa. I would think you would need to compare to all of them before you can say anything with any confidence. Quote
Brian Posted October 5, 2014 Report Posted October 5, 2014 Not much can ever be said with confidence from online pictures. All you can do is give an opinion based on what you see. This one doesn't match any of the generations I looked up. The Hiro doesn't look well cut, has a hesitant vertical stroke, and most notably, the horizontal stroke in the box of Hiro curves the other way in all the examples I saw. Nothing conclusive, I am sure there are exceptions out there and I am not a shinsa. But if I had to take a guess I would have said gimei based on what I see. Brian Quote
kitsune Posted October 5, 2014 Author Report Posted October 5, 2014 Thank you. I will consult the opinion of NBTHK. Quote
1tallsword Posted October 5, 2014 Report Posted October 5, 2014 I have done a lot of research on the line of hiromasa, my first blade was a wak. hiromasa (eisho period) I have a few blades papered 3rd,4th and 5th gen. Im trying to get all generations :lol: although this does not look like 5th gen, it has some similarity to 4th gen. one thing i noticed is hiromasa has a great variance of strokes in mei. very inconsistent. when i bought my hiromasa wak. it was sold as probably gimei, the few that seen it said the same all to to unclear strokes partially unclear from the ravishes of time and rust. it went on to pass npo-nthk and nbthk.... only for sure way to know is to submit to shinsa.....good luck! Quote
Darcy Posted October 6, 2014 Report Posted October 6, 2014 Here is my Hiromasa: http://nihonto.ca/hiromasa/page-l.jpg Agree with Brian that on the face it looks sketchy. Agree with Chris in that there are a large number of Hiromasa you need to go through to rule it out. There are probably more that we are not necessarily aware of. Tsunahiro in Kamakura I think claims a lineage of 20+ between him and Masamune. That is a lot of Tsunahiro and Hiromasa guys if it is so. They seem to have been popular names. Quote
Eric H Posted October 7, 2014 Report Posted October 7, 2014 Wakizashi 48.7 cm - kodai Hiromasa - Eiroku jidai - NBTHK Hozon Eric Quote
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